Hi Anne, regarding mobo's. I had set up a Mobo on the Shuttle-Box SV24, very small case, but very noisy (That's why I decomissioned it). The installed mobo was a Spacewalker - VIA Chipset, with builtin Graphic-Chip etc. (Sorry - only German Link: http://www.shuttle.com/german/sv24.htm#oben ).
Shuttle had also own drivers for Graphic output etc. and X-Windows did work without a problem. Everything worked like a charm. Don't think you should have any problems. Of course - testing it out is the only garantee you'll have. Cheers Joerg On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Anne Wilson wrote: > Greg and Robert - hope you don't mind me answering both together. > > It's very difficult to find information on the web about the M787CLM, but > there is a reasonable amount on the M787CLR - and I'm assuming that they are > similar. Little is said about the chipset, but the indications are that it > is a via chipset. > > This proposed upgrade is not to make it my main box. I have an old IBM/Cyrix > 233 setup that I want to use as a second box, with dual boot win98 and Mdk 9. > The main purpose is to learn about adding another linux computer to my lan, > and also to explore video conferencing, over the lan, both in the mixed os > environment and in an all-linux link. > > I accept that the speed of the C3 will not give the best video, but that's not > important, as it is the learning process that's the important bit. I can't > justify spending a huge amount on this project. > > The mobo takes DIMMs, and I have a 126MB DIMM in the old system, so memory > should be no problem. > > As it is low-powered it may not be essential to buy a new case, but I think it > would be wise, though I have an atx power supply that could be mounted in the > current one. I can't see that anything else would be needed. > > The processor, though called a GigaPro, apparently equates to a celeron, which > is ok for this box, I think. 3D work would tax it, but it would rarely be > asked to do that. It seems that this cpu is used a lot in the small embedded > boards. I have seen a report of a successful Debian install, so it looks > likely that it would be OK for my purposes. > > There is not guarantee that I will be able to get one of these, as the guy was > offering them at a local computer fair, and he may have sold out before I can > find him again, but if I have heard nothing really offputting before then I > shall buy one next time he is nearby - 2 weeks time. > > Anne > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 5:25 am, Robert Crawford wrote: > > That mobo might not even have SDRAM, much less DDR. You will probably need > > new ram, whatever you do- which isn't too bad, since it's dirt cheap these > > days. You should be able to use everything else, except probably you'll > > need a better power supply. You need to do more research as to the ram and > > power supply you have, and post it so we can advise properly. Maybe post > > the exact model of Cyrix/IBM you have now, and one of us can look it up and > > offer better advice- just don't be hasty, and make a mistake. You can put > > together a really good system, for very little money, if you know how. Any > > better mobo/cpu is going to require a better power supply, if your present > > system is what it sounds like. And, to get the best from any modern cpu, > > you really need DDR memory- SDRAM is on the way out. > > > > In any case, Mandrake will install and run on almost any halfway system. I > > would stay away from those via cpus, though. > > > > Robert Crawford > > > > On Sunday 30 March 2003 04:53 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > This is to replace the mobo in a box with a Cyrix/IBM cpu. Everything in > > > it is pretty old, and would have to be replaced if I rebuild from > > > scratch. From experience I would say that I would be pushing £500 to get > > > a full decent system together. If I buy this for £50 I can get away by > > > putting in the current drives and spending nothing else. But will it run > > > Mandrake? > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 10:02 pm, Robert Crawford wrote: > > > > In my opinion, you can do much better for the same or just a little > > > > more money. I build all my own PC's, and for others, too. For example, > > > > in the U.S., you can get an Athlon 1700+ tbred "B" for $48 US, which is > > > > 3 times the cpu. Mobo/cpu combos run $80 and up- for instance a PC > > > > chips board/1700+ combo runs $81 US. It also depends on if you are > > > > planning on using the ram you have now. Do some research before buying > > > > something. Look on Pricewatch, and compare stuff to what you have now. > > > > For the price/performance, you can't beat the Athlon 1700+ Tbred "B," > > > > and it can be matched with many low priced boards which all work fine. > > > > > > > > Robert Crawford > > > > > > > > On Sunday 30 March 2003 02:38 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > > I have been offered a PCChips M787CLM mobo, 1GHz VIA C3 cpu, pretty > > > > > well everything on board. I can't find anything on the web about > > > > > this exact model, but have seen a thread describing a Debian install > > > > > on a related model, and VIA C3 chips appear to be used in some of the > > > > > new quiet small boards that I have seen mentioned. > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know anything, good, bad or indifferent, that would > > > > > influence me? They are asking £50, by the way. > > > > > > > > > > Anne > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice & Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org
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