On Tuesday 22 July 2003 11:26 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 20:15, Ken Thompson wrote:
> > On Tuesday 22 July 2003 12:17 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > > Regarding changes in gaim, yes the changes stay as I have set them
> > > > but to no effect, nothing is changed in the message window, either
> > > > incoming nor outgoing.
> > > > Just using the "out of the box" theme for 9.1 (Keramik, I think)..
> > > > Another thing that may be related, I'm using the Yahoo Messenger
> > > > protocol and am also having font problems with ymessenger under 9.1.
> > > > In fact, that is why I changed to gaim in the first place, the fonts
> > > > in ymessenger are extremely tiny - totally unreadable and no change
> > > > can be made to them either.
> > > > SuSE 8.2 treats Ymessenger the same as Mandrake 9.0 did, it works as
> > > > advertised. Haven't tried latest gaim on SuSE yet, might be
> > > > interesting <G>....
> > > > Strangely enough, ymessenger worked just fine in the first couple of
> > > > 9.1 betas, XFree 4.2.99, but went totally bonkers after the change to
> > > > 4.3.x.. There has to be some place that controls the font rendering
> > > > in these two applications aside from all the rest. The rest of the
> > > > system is perfectly OK. No font issues at all with any other app's
> > > > just these two...
> > >
> > > As for the out of the box theme.  It's galaxy.  And now I see that we
> > > do notice the same things.  As for ymessenger.  It was built for MDK
> > > 8.0. This alone should explain why it doesn't work at all on 9.1.  On
> > > the other... Seems to be a yahoo thing.
> > >
> > > James
> >
> > Yeah, I'd about come to that conclusion too.
> > It does seem kinda strange that ymessy works OK on SuSE 8.2, though..
> > Tried it out and came right back "home" <G>.. If I was smart enough to
> > find what SuSE did (or didn't) do I'd try making the changes and see if
> > it would work on MDK.
> > Mandrake kernel: 2.4.21-0.13mdk
> > SuSE kernel: 2.4.20-4GB
> > Both running Xfree 4.3x....
> > It's gotten to be kind of a challenge no to find out why if I can...
>
> I think it has something to do with the attempts MDK is making at
> anti-aliased founts.  Not sure.

Very possible, I see there is a directory under /usr/X11R6 for mandrakefont 
(or some such), may have a look in there and see what I see.
On the other hand, Slacware and Knoppix will show the correct font until the 
Xserver is restarted then the fonts get tiny again, sometimes running 
fc-cache will make it show the fonts correctly again, might be a clue.. It 
doesn't seem to have any affect in MDK.

-- 
Ken Thompson - WA7SYR


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