On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 09:46, Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SICN wrote:
> Run strace ymessenger and you will see a large amount of files that
> are not found, or dirs even. Some are X files.
> 
> Brian D. Klar - CVE
> Multimax 
> Network Engineer
> WPAFB

Dang you are right. Never really cared since kyim aytm and gaim worked. 
Seems that having been built on on older version names have change more
than you'd think.

James

> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:10 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] Gaim 066 Fonts
> 
> 
> On Tuesday 22 July 2003 11:26 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 20:15, Ken Thompson wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 22 July 2003 12:17 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > > > Regarding changes in gaim, yes the changes stay as I have set them
> > > > > but to no effect, nothing is changed in the message window, either
> > > > > incoming nor outgoing.
> > > > > Just using the "out of the box" theme for 9.1 (Keramik, I think)..
> > > > > Another thing that may be related, I'm using the Yahoo Messenger
> > > > > protocol and am also having font problems with ymessenger under 9.1.
> > > > > In fact, that is why I changed to gaim in the first place, the fonts
> > > > > in ymessenger are extremely tiny - totally unreadable and no change
> > > > > can be made to them either.
> > > > > SuSE 8.2 treats Ymessenger the same as Mandrake 9.0 did, it works as
> > > > > advertised. Haven't tried latest gaim on SuSE yet, might be
> > > > > interesting <G>....
> > > > > Strangely enough, ymessenger worked just fine in the first couple of
> > > > > 9.1 betas, XFree 4.2.99, but went totally bonkers after the change to
> > > > > 4.3.x.. There has to be some place that controls the font rendering
> > > > > in these two applications aside from all the rest. The rest of the
> > > > > system is perfectly OK. No font issues at all with any other app's
> > > > > just these two...
> > > >
> > > > As for the out of the box theme.  It's galaxy.  And now I see that we
> > > > do notice the same things.  As for ymessenger.  It was built for MDK
> > > > 8.0. This alone should explain why it doesn't work at all on 9.1.  On
> > > > the other... Seems to be a yahoo thing.
> > > >
> > > > James
> > >
> > > Yeah, I'd about come to that conclusion too.
> > > It does seem kinda strange that ymessy works OK on SuSE 8.2, though..
> > > Tried it out and came right back "home" <G>.. If I was smart enough to
> > > find what SuSE did (or didn't) do I'd try making the changes and see if
> > > it would work on MDK.
> > > Mandrake kernel: 2.4.21-0.13mdk
> > > SuSE kernel: 2.4.20-4GB
> > > Both running Xfree 4.3x....
> > > It's gotten to be kind of a challenge no to find out why if I can...
> >
> > I think it has something to do with the attempts MDK is making at
> > anti-aliased founts.  Not sure.
> 
> Very possible, I see there is a directory under /usr/X11R6 for mandrakefont 
> (or some such), may have a look in there and see what I see.
> On the other hand, Slacware and Knoppix will show the correct font until the 
> Xserver is restarted then the fonts get tiny again, sometimes running 
> fc-cache will make it show the fonts correctly again, might be a clue.. It 
> doesn't seem to have any affect in MDK.


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