On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 04:34, Birkoff wrote:
> No ofense but can U really compare a 10$ sound chip with a 100$+ sound 
> processor? Also don't forget that the sound processing is done by the 
> CPU when you use the sound chip on the mobo. so the cpu load is higher 
> than using a dedicate sound card.

ahhhHHHH, NO


an onboard chip does not necessarily take any more CPU than a pci or isa
card, in fact it can make the overhead slightly less, but that is for a
different topic...

And what someone pays for something does not make it better...

I have seen a person pay 3000.00 for a picture for their walls, and they
thought it must be 'art' if it costs that much, but I went to Wal-mart
and bought an almost exact picture for them to see, and it cost 45.00. I
am pretty sure they came from the same source. which is better,,,?????
> 
> On Monday 15 September 2003 23:36, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 23:02:19 +0300
> >
> > Birkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I didn't read all the replies, but here goes my opinions:
> > > - sound chip on the mobo real stinks. they arecheap solutions for
> > > cheap sound. My sugestion is to buy a separate soundcard (audigy2
> > > from SB is an example.)
> >
> > I disagree here.
> > The  C-Media Electronics Inc|CM8738 [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO]
> > is an excellent onboard sound chip featuring 6-channel snd which I
> > would rate equal to even a 'high-end' SB card in linux.
> >
> > lsmod
> > Module                  Size  Used by    Tainted: P
> > ipt_LOG ipt_state ipt_multiport ipt_conntrack iptable_filter
> > iptable_mangle iptable_nat] snd-seq-midi            5632   0
> > (autoclean) (unused) snd-opl3-synth         13832   0  (autoclean)
> > (unused) snd-seq-midi-emul       7524   0  (autoclean)
> > [snd-opl3-synth] snd-seq-instr           8332   0  (autoclean)
> > [snd-opl3-synth] snd-ainstr-fm           3192   0  (autoclean)
> > [snd-opl3-synth] snd-seq-oss            37152   0  (unused)
> > snd-seq-midi-event      6592   0  [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss]
> > snd-seq                49840   2  [snd-seq-midi snd-opl3-synth
> > snd-seq-midi-emul snd-seq-instr snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event]
> > snd-pcm-oss            46820   0 snd-mixer-oss          15992   1
> > [snd-pcm-oss] snd-cmipci             26808   1
> > snd-pcm                90592   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-cmipci]
> > snd-page-alloc         10228   0  [snd-pcm]
> > snd-mpu401-uart         5436   0  [snd-cmipci]
> > snd-rawmidi            19488   0  [snd-seq-midi snd-mpu401-uart]
> > snd-opl3-lib            9156   0  [snd-opl3-synth snd-cmipci]
> > snd-timer              20932   0  [snd-seq snd-pcm snd-opl3-lib]
> > snd-hwdep               6944   0  [snd-opl3-lib]
> > snd-seq-device          6268   0  [snd-seq-midi snd-opl3-synth
> > snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi snd-opl3-lib] snd
> > 46596   0  [snd-seq-midi snd-opl3-synth snd-seq-instr snd-seq-oss
> > snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-cmipci
> > snd-pcm snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-opl3-lib snd-timer snd-hwdep
> > snd-seq-device] soundcore               7236   0  [snd]
> >
> > via-rhine              17360   1  (autoclean)
> >
> > As to network most AMD/VIA boards will also feature a VIA ethernet
> > chip which is very good.
> >
> >
> >     Charles
> 
> Birkoff
> 
> 
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