On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 20:54, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 14:32, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > On Monday 20 October 2003 22:54, HaywireMac wrote:
> > > On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:39:44 +0100
> > >
> > > Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> > > > You may find this interesting:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.virusbtn.com/news/latest_news/granneman.xml
> > > >
> > > > Anne
> > >
> > > <sigh> Here we go again.
> > >
> > > As has happened many times before, the author of this piece of
> > > journalistic tripe is trolling for controversy.
> > >
> > > The *fact* is that Linux is several times more resistant to trivial
> > > exploits than Windows. There is no one in the security field with more
> > > than ten brain cells who disputes this.
> > >
> > > Yes, it is possible to exploit Linux platforms, just like it's possible
> > > to exploit any platform. The question is: is it *trivial*?
> > >
> > > Windows: yes. Linux: no.
> > >
> > > The article this "journalist" seeks to rebut makes this point fairly
> > > well, it's not propaganda, it's not wishful thinking or anyone burying
> > > their heads in the sand. It's just an observation of something that is
> > > common knowledge.
> > >
> > > Let's put it this way, as someone on my local LUG list said:
> > >
> > > Take a default install of any Linux distro, and a default install of
> > > Windows, connect them to the internet with no firewall or any antivirus
> > > software, and see which one gets compromised 1st.
> > >
> > > Anyone care to bet?
> > >
> > > C'mon, I'll give you ten to one on the Windows box... ;-)
> > 
> > An acquaintance of mine stuck a newly bought winXP box on the 
> > internet.......it lasted 15 minutes, after which it was degraded (or should 
> > that be upgraded?) to a worm, trojan and virus spreader itself.
> > 
> > So...NO, no bet;)
> > 
> > Good luck,
> > HarM
> 
> The shortest time for a Linux box I've ever seen.  30 minutes till it
> was root kitted.  Why.  The user had installed wu-ftpd with anon-ftp. 
> Yep... they swooped right on in.  BTW around the time of 7.0 mdk.  
> 
> James
> 
> 

WU's crud is a good example of the Lindows thing someone mentioned
earlier. No matter how good the basic system, someone can find a way to,
with the best of intentions, shoot themselves in the foot.
-- 
Jack Coates
Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture...


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