On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 21:04, Jack Coates wrote: > On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 20:54, James Sparenberg wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 14:32, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > > On Monday 20 October 2003 22:54, HaywireMac wrote: > > > > On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:39:44 +0100 > > > > > > > > Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > > > You may find this interesting: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.virusbtn.com/news/latest_news/granneman.xml > > > > > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > > > <sigh> Here we go again. > > > > > > > > As has happened many times before, the author of this piece of > > > > journalistic tripe is trolling for controversy. > > > > > > > > The *fact* is that Linux is several times more resistant to trivial > > > > exploits than Windows. There is no one in the security field with more > > > > than ten brain cells who disputes this. > > > > > > > > Yes, it is possible to exploit Linux platforms, just like it's possible > > > > to exploit any platform. The question is: is it *trivial*? > > > > > > > > Windows: yes. Linux: no. > > > > > > > > The article this "journalist" seeks to rebut makes this point fairly > > > > well, it's not propaganda, it's not wishful thinking or anyone burying > > > > their heads in the sand. It's just an observation of something that is > > > > common knowledge. > > > > > > > > Let's put it this way, as someone on my local LUG list said: > > > > > > > > Take a default install of any Linux distro, and a default install of > > > > Windows, connect them to the internet with no firewall or any antivirus > > > > software, and see which one gets compromised 1st. > > > > > > > > Anyone care to bet? > > > > > > > > C'mon, I'll give you ten to one on the Windows box... ;-) > > > > > > An acquaintance of mine stuck a newly bought winXP box on the > > > internet.......it lasted 15 minutes, after which it was degraded (or should > > > that be upgraded?) to a worm, trojan and virus spreader itself. > > > > > > So...NO, no bet;) > > > > > > Good luck, > > > HarM > > > > The shortest time for a Linux box I've ever seen. 30 minutes till it > > was root kitted. Why. The user had installed wu-ftpd with anon-ftp. > > Yep... they swooped right on in. BTW around the time of 7.0 mdk. > > > > James > > > > > > WU's crud is a good example of the Lindows thing someone mentioned > earlier. No matter how good the basic system, someone can find a way to, > with the best of intentions, shoot themselves in the foot.
I've got to give WU a little room. It was written in a day when if you did something the whole of the Net knew it was you and would basically "shut you out" Social pressure was too great. Now... they brag about it in IRC. James
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