Dave, the problem with accept the class as is, is that the class is dying, 
that's what started this dialog.
   Do you know what the valve clearance schedule is for a current 600 bike???  
The Honda is 16k miles!!!  It's also fuel injected, forget about jetting or 
sticking pistons, there isn't even a choke to worry about.  No CVT clutches to 
try and dial in.
   If 2 stroke CVT is your bag baby, that's fine, but lets see what else is out 
there that might make the class grow.
   
  CR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I know how to set valves; that's why I don't want them.

I've rebuilt small block Chevy's, big block Chevy's (a .030 over 454 
yielding about 610HP), big block Fords (helped a guy do a side oiler), 
Datsun Z's (a .040 over L24 yielding about 230HP), and even an International 
truck engine (the pistons had dishes in them adequate to hold a nice helping 
of ice cream). I have rebuilt the top ends of Chapparal's, Kawasaki's, 
AMW's, and now the 494 Rotax (I don't do bottoms).

Let me tell you why I like this class and, in doing so, I will exclude the 
normal economic, logistical, and technical reasons. IF you don't know these 
by now, you need more help than this site can provide you.

I work a 50-60 hour week. Unfortunately, I have a life outside of racing. 
I work out, eat out, attend meetings of other subject groups, and like to 
get a good night's sleep. Sound like you? Probably so. I do NOT eat, 
sleep, and live racing. I AM an enthusiast but, I am NOT obsessed. Some of 
you are obsessed; the rest is like me.

I have no crew, attend most races alone (hence the electric starter), have 
no sponsors, my employer is associated with neither the motor sports nor the 
transportation industries, and therefore pay right out of the pocket with no 
help. I am NOT complaining. However, racing solo (alone; not around 
pylons) requires planning, sacrifice, and is somewhat disadvantageous when 
seeking a second opinion. I barely have time to service the car as it is 
without having to adjust valves (spare me the sealed engine sermon), change 
crankcase oil, and check lift. I cannot afford a collection of springs, 
shock valves, sway bars, gear box sets, lightened CV's, check/adjust shift 
linkage, and STILL get dressed, buckled in and to the grid. The mental 
transition from mechanic to driver can be an awesome undertaking.

I am NOT unusual. I would predict that there are literally dozens of racers 
in this class just like me. We need a simple solution to our racing. 
Minimal variables. Easy loading/unloading. Low storage costs. Modest shop 
space.

This class will NEVER be EVERYTHING to EVERYBODY. If it is for you, please 
accept the class for what it is; no more, no less. Warts & all. If not, I 
personally wish you well in your racing and if you see me at the track and 
need something, please drop by. I believe there are enough people 
interested in this class to sustain its presence in the club. What I 
believe we need to do is whatever is necessary to retain those people 
without degrading the class by introducing unwarranted universality in an 
attempt to please all the people, all the time.

Dave Gill


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Reinhardt" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [F500] RE: Beyond powerplants/trannys


> How many engines have been tried since the Kawi 440's? From the outside 
> it looks like a bandaide keeps being put on the class everytime there's an 
> engine issue.
> I agree with Jay, keep the chassis the same, open it up to different 
> powerplants.
>
> CR
>
> "Louis A. Schultz" wrote:
> I strongly disagree with this line of dialogue. Jay any discussion at 
> this
> time about engines, tranny's etc at this time draws attention away from 
> the
> more immediate fix to low participation levels.
>
> Issue 1. Increase car counts - How - Sell new cars with the 493 @ 800#'s.
> (Gin out e-mails to the CRB/BoD).
> Issue 2. Stabilized class rules will COST everyone nothing and also foster
> faster growth.
>
> Louie Schultz
> Philly Region
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jay Novak"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:32 AM
> Subject: RE: [F500] RE: Beyond powerplants/trannys
>
>
>> Hi Dave, I am NOT trying to eliminate the CVT at all. I will continue to
> use it. I am
>> trying to open up the class to more competitors with an ALTERNATIVE 
>> engine
> package.
>>
>>
>> Thanks ... Jay Novak


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