Don't see how a tube could be stronger than a solid if the materials are
the same.  I would suspect if you have seen a difference, it was also
due to a material difference.  It will be lighter, of course.  

But, a larger diameter tube will be stronger than a thicker wall.
Imagine trying to bend a 2" fencepost tube or conduit compared to a 3/8"
solid. 


On the subject of bent / breaking axles.... Had an axle break on me at
Grattan in May during a test day.  It was something that we were trying
with Don Handley, using a larger axle with the ends turned down to the
normal 1.25".  There wasn't a good radius on the transition which
created a huge stress riser.  This decided to snap at the apex of the
last turn going on to the straight at Grattan.  Somehow I didn't hit the
wall.  However, the flailing axle broke both carbs, of which pieces went
completely through the engine.  

So, the bill included:  axle (of course), carb bodies, bearings,
complete engine tear down, Gates drive belt ($$$), and an assload of
work.  Now have a continuous diameter axle.  It may bend, but it
shouldn't snap.  In fact, the drive belt tension causes a little bit of
a bow in the axle.  Look down the hollow tube and see for yourself, I
bet I'm not the only one with a little bit of rear toe-out!

Phil


 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
Reinhardt
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [F500] Bent Axle


 Ain't no engineer here, but a hollow axle will resist bending better
than a solid one.  I believe it has to do with #1 the flexibility, #2
the surface area both inside and out...  Plus the missing 3/4" bar,
assuming you're using .25 wall axles, is equal to about 5.5lbs.
   
  CR

Dave Phaneuf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  John
The axle ( 1.125 dia. solid ) that came with my car was slightly bent so
following a recommendation from Don at Red Devil I made one up out of a
steel he suggested, ETD150, it's 150ksi tensile and yield is about 
125 ksi.
It bent, no crash just bumps, at that point I redid the whole rear 
suspension
and used a piece of 4340M also called 300M ....it's has held up fine. I
seem to remember the certs that came with it showed a tensile of about
280ksi and a rockwell of about 52-53 on the c scale. Maybe overkill but
I haven't had to mess with it since. Dave Phaneuf


 
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