One thing I wanted to mention was the pong(?) demo that Ed put together. I believe there were a few different versions and the one with the locals was the most readable/easiest to follow. So beyond just stack shuffling operations I think there are times where locals help even if it makes refactoring a bit harder to do. Beyond that Factor is the only language I've worked with that lets me so easily move between the stack-based/concatenative world, and a variable-declaration based one.
I'm really looking forward to seeing where Factor evolves to in 2009. I've started coming up with excuses to use it at work and hope to expand the opportunities. Now if I could only convince more people that stack based isn't so scary... Glenn V. Glenn Tarcea gtar...@umich.edu -----Original Message----- From: Samuel Tardieu [mailto:s...@rfc1149.net] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:35 PM To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Locals Usage >>>>> "Glenn" == V Glenn Tarcea <gtar...@umich.edu> writes: Glenn> I really like how Factor allows either usage, even though it Glenn> creates a tension between the two styles. I personally dislike Eduardo's style, as it leads to code which looks too complicated to me and I think that it encourages longer words. What I like a lot about concatenative languages is the ability to easily refactor parts of existing words into new, shorted words, without any rewriting, and I have the feeling that this is often lost when locals are in the game. But heck, Eduardo shares much more Factor code than I do, so I let the code talk and wouldn't allow myself to criticize his (very useful IMO) experiments, even if I would prefer the Factor standard library to be more in a stack-oriented style. Sam -- Samuel Tardieu -- s...@rfc1149.net -- http://www.rfc1149.net/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword _______________________________________________ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword _______________________________________________ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk
