Hi John, ... since when? Either I was blind mixed things up somehow. Apologies for the FUD.
Are all the vocabs available too? Looking forward to the multi vm. What will the IPC be like? -- Peter Nagy - To reach a goal one has to enjoy the journey On May 20, 2019 8:53:42 PM UTC, John Benediktsson <mrj...@gmail.com> wrote: >Why are you limited to 32 bits? Factor provides 64-bit binaries? > >We do have some limitations to a single OS thread, although similar to >how >Python is doing a "sub interpreter" in their next version we have a >multi-VM feature that was half completed, and could use some finishing >touches. > >Best, >John. > >On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 1:50 PM Peter Nagy <pet...@riseup.net> wrote: > >> Foreign function interface. Most usually used to call C functions >from >> another language (hence foreign). I second emacs though, at least for >> prototyping. >> >> Re factor - I enjoy it too. What frustrates me is 32bits and single >thread >> (os). Any plans to upgrade these in the *near* future? >> -- >> Peter Nagy >> >> - To reach a goal one has to enjoy the journey >> >> On May 20, 2019 3:20:04 AM UTC, Andrew McDowell <andyji...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >Hi Jack, >> > >> >Thanks for your thoughts. I too like the Forth/Factor mindset, and >> >wonder if it could possibly be in the long run a good path to >learning >> >programming, especially as I am not ‘indoctrinated’ with more >> >conventional programming. >> > >> >‘Nimble’ is actually my working name for this idea, as the single >word, >> >‘nimble’ sort of says it all as to what I’m after. >> > >> >What’s an ffi? Fatal familial insomnia? Foreign financial institute? >> >Fine feathered idiot? Folksy, frolicking iconoclast? Stop. >> > >> >I’ve struggled, and am still struggling to find clear ways to >describe >> >what I’m after. A database of notes on multiple topics, accumulated >> >over a couple of decades, such that notes on a given topic (of which >> >there are many) are often (read: usually) distributed over many >files. >> >I want to be able to search and browse, easily and quickly form >> >collections of blocks of notes from multiple files, manipulate these >> >‘thoughts’ in side by side stacks/columns/windows; search/navigate >the >> >database by keyword, by date, by topic. All this from the keyboard, >no >> >messing with toolbars, menus and mice. Minimalist UI except >possibly >> >for the virtual keyboard interface, which I hope would be more >catalyst >> >(and in effect minimalist) than a clunky intrusion. >> > >> >The thing about the virtual keyboard on screen is to create a >> >customizable console represented as a virtualized, labeled keyboard >> >rather than as dropdown menus or assigned keybindings to memorize. >My >> >hope is that this would be more flowing than menus, and less >demanding >> >of mental bandwidth than memorizing keybindings. It would probably >> >require multiple modes like Vim has. Personally I like the modal >> >aspect of Vim. Possibly the console thing could turn out more >clunky >> >than flowing, but I find the idea appealing to try. Probably way >too >> >large a programming challenge though, especially for a newbie, and I >> >now have two votes for ELISP. >> > >> >Thanks for listening, >> >Andy >> > >> >> On May 19, 2019, at 10:34 PM, Jack Lucas via Factor-talk >> ><factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> Everything except for the on screen keyboard honestly sounds like >> >it'd find a better fit for you by just learning emacs lisp. I'm >having >> >a harder time understanding what exactly you want to make, probably >> >because I've never really encountered your use case. >> >> >> >> Factor is powerful, fast, and generates nice binaries though. So >if >> >you do end up making a suite of tools they'll probably be fairly >small >> >and nimble. Its totally up to you. I moved over from common lisp and >> >scheme and now almost entirely mess around with Factor exclusively. >I >> >really like the mindset of the Forth style. >> >> >> >> That being said there is a GUI, and the ffi is fabulous of you >need >> >to use a c library in making your tools. >> >> >> >> >> >> Best of luck, >> >> >> >> Jack >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from ProtonMail mobile >> >> >> >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> >> On May 19, 2019, 10:19 PM, Andrew McDowell < andyji...@gmail.com> >> >wrote: >> >> >> >> Thanks Александр, >> >> >> >> I expect I need to let go of some of the fancier ideas I have for >> >this, and just develop the basic components using tools at hand. I >> >think some of what I’m after might come under the heading of file >> >editing, as opposed to text editing, as I want to nimbly pick up and >> >toss around blocks of text from multiple files, more efficiently >than >> >laborious copy/paste, and I haven’t found an application that does >that >> >well. Sounds like projectile goes a ways on that sort of thing. >> >> >> >> Appreciate the ideas, and if anyone has any further suggestions >for >> >tools, etc, let me know. >> >> >> >> Andy >> >> >> >> > On May 18, 2019, at 6:56 AM, Alexander Ilin <ajs...@yandex.ru >> ><mailto:ajs...@yandex.ru>> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Hello, Andy! >> >> > >> >> > From my point of view, and from the software experience that I >have >> >(both as user and as developer), it seems to me that you could get a >> >lot of the benefits you are looking for from Spacemacs with org-mode >> >and projectile. That's where I'd be heading with these requirements, >> >and then I'd adapt those to my needs, since the source is available, >> >the LISP language is quite nice to work with, and the community is >> >there to provide some guidance and support. >> >> > >> >> > If you want to go completely crazy with this, dive into Plan 9 >or >> >Project Oberon (the latter could be simpler for a novice), but I'm >not >> >sure how much support you could get there. You'd probably need to >> >become a full-time developer to understand and modify those systems >to >> >your needs. >> >> > >> >> > Returning to Spacemacs, org-mode would give you the >no-mouse-needed >> >structured capabilities (GTD, PIM, etc.), and you could work exactly >> >like what Ginko offers if you opened the same file with different >> >levels of unfolding in three vertical columns (or "windows", as they >> >are called in Emacs). Projectile would let you search your (text) >files >> >with ease and organize them into projects. >> >> > >> >> > Here's a well-regarded org-mode tutorial in case you want to >take >> >this route: >> >> > >> > >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQS06Qjnkcc&list=PLVtKhBrRV_ZkPnBtt_TD1Cs9PJlU0IIdE >> >< >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQS06Qjnkcc&list=PLVtKhBrRV_ZkPnBtt_TD1Cs9PJlU0IIdE >> > >> >> > >> >> > ---=====--- >> >> > Александр >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Factor-talk mailing list >> >> > Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net >> ><mailto:Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net> >> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk >> ><https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Factor-talk mailing list >> >> Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net >> ><mailto:Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net> >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk >> ><https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Factor-talk mailing list >> >> Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Factor-talk mailing list >> Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk >> _______________________________________________ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk
