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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:12
PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sense
perception (was Re: soma & New Vedic
Hi Tom:
On Mar 21, 2005, at 6:49 PM,
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote:
> It appears we have a
slight communication problem so I will try and
> make myself clearer. In
my comment above when the lady commented on
> her experience of Infinite
Mind, she never said she witnessed that she
> was Infinite mind. To my
understanding witnessing is the primary means
> of knowing one is in CC.
One witnesses all things happening from an
> undisturbed state. She did
not say she witnessed, she said quite
> clearly and maybe I didn't make
it clear that she knew she was
> infinite mind. Knowing is not
witnessing. Knowing is having them one
> in her understanding which
seems to fulfill your definition of Brahman
> above. She was Infinite
mind in which finite mind also existed as part
> of her wholeness both
being available and both making up the entire
> wholeness she is. The
understanding this experience is wholeness is a
> major criteria of the
reality of Brahman. Inside this wholeness
> resides all
creation.
I listened to her--I assume it's the same women--she
described the
dawning of the state (Rick will remember if she was there
when I
was)--and I got then that she was describing CC. From my
perspective,
"infinite mind" is "mahat". I did have the sense that she was
wakeful
(of course it would be impossible for me to say whether that was
permanent of not). I'm not sure why everyone is all the sudden talking
of UC/BC. I'm just not getting that.
"Knowing" will always presume
a "Knower" and some medium in between.
But this could be a semantic
misunderstanding on my part.
I think "witnessing" may be a bad term in
this case and that's the
sticker.
Lastly, what disturbs me is that
it doesn't all appear new. It's a nice
and convincing rearrangement of all
the old TM buzzwords. There's
little new. I expect the description to be
as fresh and new as anything
could be. But it's presented in the jargon
and conditioned wording of
TM. Why is it not fresh and new?
I can
feel whole or wholeness but it does not seem like Grand
Unification to me
(to use TM jargon).
Does *she* feel she is in BC? Or do others feel she
is in BC? I did
find her very convincing and "right
on".
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