My experiences are like yours: nothing in terms of powers.  sometimes energy up 
the 
spine during "hopping" and usually a feeling of inner silence, quiet and of 
being cleansed 
after the whole thing.  Mostly profound silence.  Like I feel after doing an 
hour and a half 
of yoga, only the siddhis feel less physical.

I think we have to distinguish between the dangers of feeling good from a 
spiritiual 
practice, and the dangers of feeling good from other life experiences. Also, Is 
feeling good 
dangerous becauseyou get attached?  Or is it a lure toward joy, from which it 
is might be 
easier to make the leap to pure consciousness?  Does n't joy chagne the 
physiology so that 
the leap is easier?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> Setting aside the texts for a moment, what are 
> peoples' experiences with the TM-Siddhi 
> program? It seems whacky to debate a text, 
> however learned, when we have such a large 
> cohort of people who've practiced the techniques 
> for decades. I'm thinking we could evaluate them 
> for ourselves, based on our own knowledge.
> 
> For myself, I can't confess to any powers from 
> the siddhis, other than the hopping stuff, but 
> they do seem to do just what I was told they'd 
> do: solidify the presence of silent consciousness.
> 
> What are other people getting?
> 
>  - Patrick Gillam
> 
> > On Apr 20, 2005, at 8:18 AM, wayback71 wrote:
> > 
> > > What do the Shankaracharyas say?  Who is
> > > Vidyaranya?
> > 
> > Vaj wrote:
> >
> > Vidyaranya was one of the most eminent Shankaracharyas. He was the 12th 
> > jagadguru of the Sringiri seat. His text on the attainment of Cosmic 
> > Consciousness is still the standard among yogis today. That's why is it 
> > so significant on what he says of the siddhis and samyama--if you are 
> > interested in enlightenment that is.
> > 
> > > Is it possible that the siddhis are really about making the relative, 
> > > subjective aspect of the
> > > individual a better, kinder and more skilled human being  - so that 
> > > when they do reach
> > > CC, they aren't a nasty, unpleasant, unkind Enlightened person?
> > 
> > Vaj wrote:
> >
> > Vidyaranya would disagree. You would more likely become either 
> > egocentric or a collector of subtle experiences. These experiences 
> > would come and go and not lead to a permanent state of higher 
> > consciousness.





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