imo, these things seems to me fruit of imagination.

What's *out* there are forces per se, "inteligent" energy if you 
will. No actual forms needed aka "angels".
like gravitation as a force, Can you see gravitation ?
 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > when you say 'literally', you mean you see them on the physical 
> > level ? right. I just want to be sure.
> 
> > now why would they circle around ? can't they stay put.
> 
> I don't know. That is the way I saw them.
> 
> > how would they look like, size of wings, colours, were they 
> looking at
> > you, talking with you or just smiling ? etc.
> > 
> 
> It depends. The ones circling above my daughter looked like women 
> with long colored robes, muted green and purple each, long wavy 
> brown hair, kind faces, and of course wings. Very gentle.
> 
> The ones I've seen around hospitals were much lighter looking, more 
> white and gold. But then I had to get to my doctor appointment.
> 
> They are a comforting presence, so I don't talk with them. I am in 
> awe of them. 
> 
> Its like peter commented above, the more you put your attention on 
> it, the more you can see. Just like TM it is a mechanical process; 
> all in the sutras. 
> 
> It is not something odd or strange. Much like Rory's comment about 
> having an inflated opinion of enlightenment, much of what seems so 
> striking this time around is that the light is against such a 
> dramatic background of darkeness that everyone makes such a big 
deal 
> about it. However in an enlightened world, talking about all of 
this 
> would be quite a yawn.
> 
> Wings of Desire (Wim Wenders) is a good movie about angels. There's 
> also one that nicky cage did, can't recall the title.
> 
> Jim




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