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I really liked your
counterarguments to Irmeli Akasha. I wish you could take it one step further and
identify the specifics of the body parts which have to do with what aspects of
the world, and their authors, and also, then teach me to take that into my
activity. Like for instance the devata of -do as i tell ye- would reside in the
index finger, and the devata of -get thee away from me- would reside in the
middle. Moreover, it's dissatisfying to me that I do fail so often in my efforts
in spite of 25 years of training. Just as does Maharishi seemingly.
Is there a devata of failure?
But I do have one counterargument
of my own. The windows XP analogy is really great, but where do the bug fixes
and upgrades come in?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 10:34
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:
Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv.
Do
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"Irmeli Mattsson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>
wrote:
>
>
> > Irmeli:
> > An I, who
observes, makes interpretations, creates plans, acts,
and reacts, and often
quite differently than the others.
> >
> >
> >
Akasha:
> > Why do you necessarily subjectively equate that which
observes,
makes interpretations, creates plans, acts, and reacts, and
is
different than other entities with "you"?
> >
>
>
Irmeli:
> I think here is a confusion with the concepts. I seem to mean
a
> different thing with the individual I than you. For me the
I
includes the other entities in me.
Yes, individuality and be seen
as different things (or non things).
You seem to be aware of something
that decides, creates plans, acts,
and reacts. The question is: why
does that intellect or any part
claim ownership of those things. Did you
create them? Do you know how
they really work -- the physiology or it all?
Do you create the
thoughts that come to you? Do you (something other than
your
intellect) direct your intellect on the methods and style that
it
will decide things?
If not, why do you claim ownership of such.
Why do you claim to be
running the show?
> I think the
comparison with computers is a good one. With the I, who
> observes,
makes interpretations etc, I mean the operating system of
> the
computer. Computers can have many kinds of operating systems,
> but it
must have one to be capable of functioning.
Your operating system seems
to be working fine in that things are
getting done, aren't they? Did you
create your operating system? Do
you know how it works -- line by line of
code?
If not, what does it have to do with who you are? Windows
XP runs the
PC here. But it would be silly to claim "I am Windows
XP".
> And it seems that at least we humans can consciously
also partly
share our operating systems. My operating system can be
strongly
influenced by yours. But it is still an operating system
that uses
this physical body as an instrument.
But did you
create the body? If not, why do you claim ownership of it?
You are
right, the operating systems can influence each other. They
can and do
provide feedback to each other. This is how they learn and
adapt. That is
its nature.
Some fear that the operating system will shut down and the
PC will
stop if they don't claim ownership of either or both. Its kind of
a
silly concept when you think about it.
Some fear that if ther is
now owner, no driver, then total
licentuousness will occur -- its an excuse
to do anything. Can your
body or mind do anything not inhernet in the
operating system and
software? The operating system has learned there are
consequences for
actions and seeks to navigate its mission efficiently.
Most operating
systems realize that doin any ol' crazy thing isn't a good
strategy.
> And then there is apparently also a
much bigger server to which
these individual computers are connected
to.
Perhaps that larger server is the owner. Why steal ownership from
that?
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