On May 19, 2005, at 1:20 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > 'Effortless' is relative after all. And compared to that form of zen > meditation where the master strikes the student to maintain > mindfulness, and some other techniques, TM could be considered > effortless, though I'll agree once the practitioner is advanced > enough, more effortless techniques can probably be found, though from > my experience I am speculating...
IME Zen is more effortless than TM since one does nothing with mind. It's a very "bare" attention, no intention per se. I particularly liked their walking meditation....what a great way to integrate. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/