Peter Sutphen wrote:

> --- Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Peter Sutphen wrote:
> >
> > > --- Llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Maharishi Effect is a specious bit of slop
> > trop.
> > > >  While there's no doubt that people meditating
> > > > together can produce good vibes and great
> > amounts of
> > > > silence, some soma for oneself and the
> > enviroment,
> > > > and soome bubbling bliss, there is no coherence
> > > > effect in an open system. The basic premise of
> > > > decrease in entropy only works in closed
> > systems.
> > > > The whole concept was merely an analogy from the
> > > > beginning and so it's crazy to tout the
> > Maharishi
> > > > Effect as if it's something real or proven.
> > >
> > > Agreed. MMY was never truly interested in a field
> > > effect of meditators, but only something
> > "scientific"
> > > sounding to promote TM. I don't see him doing this
> > > insidiously, but he wanted certain results and got
> > > those results from his "scientists."
> > >
> > >
> >
> > This may or may not be true but I taught in a small
> > town, isolated from other
> > towns or cities and when it hit the 1% mark, the
> > numbers corroborated the M
> > Effect. I gathered the data myself from law
> > enforcement sources.
>
> I believe in the "1% effect", don't get me wrong. I
> believe that there is a field effect of consciousness,
> but I think it is premature to quantify with 1% or
> "square root",  I just see it as being poorly
> researched by the TMO who are more interested in
> promoting TM than investigating this effect. As it
> stands now, there are too many variables that
> influence events to tease-out the consciousness
> aspect. I'd love to see your research.
> -Peter
>
>

I agree with your observations.... too many variables to nail this down
to 1% or 2% or whatever. In the case I mentioned, things were very
stable for many years... population etc. My research (which measured
only crime statistics) is long gone... that was probably close to 30
years ago.

Don



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