--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Personally, I question whether or not he is enlightened especially
> when he started damning democracy and suggesting Bush was Hitler, that
> doesn't strike me as coming from someone who is enlightened! 

Your posts raises some interesting themes -- a discussion bobbing up
and down here through the years.   Since you have some degree of
opinion or experience on the matter, I ask you and anyone the
following -- not in a challenging way but an exploratory way to see
the diversity of views  and direct experiences for the following. 

In your framework (or direct experience) what does come from someone
who is enlightened? 

Are people with certain characteristics unable to get enlightened?  

What are these bad characteristics? 

Could Tony Soprano be, or become, enlightened (in this life)?

If not, how effective is TM (or name you favorite sadhana, practice or
path), if they can't enlighten everyone?

Would Tony Soprano's behavior change if he were enlightened?

Particularly if yes, then does everyone's behavior become better in
enlightenment? All aspects of behavior, or just some? Which aspects?



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