--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Trinity, > > Welcome back to krodha-dama. > > We get to hear claims here from time to time about lineages - along > with various references to yogic insider knowledge. Most of it is > nothing but mere claims, usually based upon a favored explanation given > by some teacher who is rooted in a particular interpretation or > philosophic view about yoga. > > Here, in this context, it appears quite funny - so we should all have a > good laugh, pass the bottle of bourbon and salute our foolish > imaginations. > > The PatanjalaYogaSutra is clocked around 150-200 CE. Both the Samkhya > and Yoga darshanas were dealt with by Buddhist scholars, even as late as > Paramatha in China (6th Cent. CE). That is pretty much it because > neither of these darshanas survived the intervening centuries down to > our era of time. > > "Did not survive" means no param-para, no sampradaya, no lineage, no > diksha, no transmission of secret techniques, no transmission of hidden > knowledge, and more importantly no person remaining to retain any kind > of lengthy or abridged explanations. > > Swami Hariharananda Aranya tried to revive this extinct lineage in the > 19th Century, CE by creating a SankhyaYoga Matha but it did not survive > either. > > Vedanta survived - in various forms and sampradayas. Vedantic teachers > read Patanjali and created their own interpretations of his intended > meaning, although almost always defering to and starting from Vyasa's > commentary. > > And Trinity you are quite correct. I posted Shankara's short vivarana > about siddhis in Card's thread about YS. III.37(38). He sees siddhis as > distractions but only for a yogin who wants to remain absorbed in the > vision of purusha. Even then there is no problem for one detached in > proper vairagya. > > empty > >
How about siddhis being a touchstone of the depth(?) of samaadhi? dharma-megha-samaadhi is possible to "reach" only if one is 'akusiida' even in 'prasaMkhyaana', prasaMkhyaane 'py akusiidasya sarvathaa viveka-khyaater dharma-meghaH samaadhiH (IV 29) Perhaps 'prasaMkhyaana' means, amongst other things, that one is capable of "performing" siddhis, if one so wishes (is 'kusiida', *not* 'a-kusiida'??). kusIda mfn. (fr. 1. %{ku} and %{sad}? ; cf. %{kuSIda}) , lazy , inert (?) TS. vii ; (%{am}) n. any loan or thing lent to be repaid with interest , lending money upon interest , usury TS. iii Gobh. Gaut. Pa1n2. &c. ; red sandal wood L. ; (%{as} , %{A}) mf. a money- lender , usurer L. akusIda or %{akuzIda} mfn. taking no interest or usury , without gain.