I am very familiar with full contact tournaments. They have many more rules than a mixed martial arts matches. It is a great sport. But we started the discussion about actual fighting without rules about takedowns. One punch one kill is a fantasy perpetuated by people who stay our of the Octagon. Hitting someone who doesn't want to get hit is actually very hard. Ever spar with a boxer? All that straight line traditional attack stuff gets stuffed fast.
> There is no way inder the sun that a grappler will get near an expert > in Shotokan. It is over before the grappler knows what has happened. This theory has been falsified many times over. If you are close enough to strike, you are close enough to be taken down. Don't watch UFC 1-6 if you want to keep your illusions in place. All the one strike boys end up on the grown tapping out before they pass out. it is not that people can't be knocked out by one punch. Sure they can. Its just that it isn't easy to do while someone is taking you to the ground. Now that all the strikers are cross trained in boxing and Muay Thai the effectiveness of the traditional karate strikes are very limited. Just watch the videos of people actually using the techniques you are theorizing about. You talk a good game about scientific studies but you are an fantasist. But prove me wrong. I have provided video references for my POV. Show me some examples of strikers staying on their feet against someone who wants them on the ground. Like I said the jury has been in for over a decade on this issue. You are arguing a flat world theory. All serious martial arts schools do cross training unless they are traditionalist who don't do challenge matches. > Shotokan people KNOW that that IS A VERY SERIOUS BLOW if full force > were given. It never is given in the sparring. Oh reaaaaaallly! I know all about matches. Now show me how Shotakan People KNOW this if they don't ever do it in full contact, full power fights like in UFC? Actually some brave karate master have. They were willing to learn the truth. But as I am finding out, that isn't your interest is it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > I thought you were a pro science guy. You know peer reviewed > studies? > > The review of martial arts has been settled in the octagon ring. > The > > videos I showed were challenge matches by brave Shotokan fighters > > against a martial art designed to counter striking arts by > grappling.>> > > You have absolutley no understanding of martial arts. > You cannot compare the grappler to the Shotokan fighter. It would be > like comparing a bicyle to a race car with no gas in it. Sure the > bucycle will win ...LOL...what a joke. > You have no understanding of martial arts. > In Shotokan the Shotokan fighters KNOW that once ONE strike is made > the fight is stopped, for a few seconds, because the Shotokan expert > knows that if you put your full trained force behind it then the guy > would be dead or severely knocked over. You cannot compare a Shotokan > fighter to any of those other styles. They stop the Shotokan fight > instantly for a second or two, you see it in this video below, the > untrained eye does not see that the fight is stopped for a second or > two every few seconds of fighting becasue a point was given, and the > Shotokan people KNOW that that IS A VERY SERIOUS BLOW if full force > were given. It never is given in the sparring. Only mild > representaions of it. Therefore your idiots on the UFC stuff etc. > have no clue about the reality of it, that is why a Shotokan sparring > match stops the fight after one strike, but many of the other martial > arts do not appear to understand this, so they continue the fight as > if nothing happened. Lol !...the Shotokan fighter has knocked your > stupid head off and you don't even know it because you know so LITTLE > about true martial arts. > > There is no way inder the sun that a grappler will get near an expert > in Shotokan. It is over before the grappler knows what has happened. > > You need to watch this next video to understand that SHotokan > dominates the world of martial arts...by far. Don't discuss this > anymore with me until you watch this and understand why the fight is > stopped every few seconds...because they are trained to kill someone > with one SINGLE blow. > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=292RJFjGCKA&feature=related > > OffWorld >
