Well, maybe its been hard-won, but there is often wisdom in your 
comments. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This reminded me of the "recall" of the SCI tapes dealing with 
biology
> and ? can't remember the other one (maybe chemistry.) They recalled
> two of the tapes during the first year that they were out.  I taught
> my first SCI class in Napa, CA using them, and when I played them, I
> just squirmed throughout the session because Maharishi's biology was
> so goofy-assed....no wonder they withdrew it.
> 
> So much for Maharishi's connection to the basic truths of 
existence. 
> I wonder if I would squirm as much today -- maybe he was far seeing
> and only now biologists are catching up to his vision -- ahem, 
riiiight.
> 
> Everyone's got an opinion, but I took Maharishi's as concepts of
> pristine clarity delivered to him by the devas that oversaw the laws
> of nature.  Like that.  Sigh.
> 
> Here's how bad the pain is to look into my mirror:  I can't even ask
> "Edg, what were you thinking?"  I fucking know what I was thinking,
> and I should have yelled loudly almost from the get-go about the
> imperfections touted by the movement as inconsequential or "easily
> explained and spun."  I saw the tells, and just turned from their
> truth.  Shudda got out of TM in the first year if I'd had integrity,
> but, nope, my hopes and faith (denial) locked me into a thirty year
> battle for my freedom from Maharishi-says-ism.
> 
> It's a hard thing to know about one's own earplugs and blinders.  So
> hard, that on my better days, I forgive Nab, Off, Shemp, George, 
Dick,
> et al for their continued travail with the tar baby.  
> 
> Edg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> >
> > > Based on my experience with the TM practice, I am confirming 
the 
> > > reason why MMY has questions about the use of hypnotism.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Given MMY's lack of interest in any idea that didn't come from 
his own
> > mouth, I find it highly unlikely that he has more than the most
> > superficial understanding of the many styles of hypnosis. I can't 
even
> > imagine a context where he would be exposed to these ideas.  Like 
GW 
> > Bush, MMY is not much of a "reader", so his views are often 
shaped by
> > one person he talked with about a certain subject.  And like GW, 
this
> > superficial exposure to ideas suits him fine cuz he is following 
his
> > inner "truthiness" and doesn't like confronting details that
> > contradict that.  Even when he works with the physicists he is 
often
> > caught up with how a word sounds rather then its meaning.  He will
> > riff on a rhyme for an hour rather than get into the actual 
meaning of
> > a physics term.  As far as his opinion of whatever he is not 
selling
> > himself goes...you can pretty much predict is uninformed position
> > without ever getting into the content.
> > 
> > Selling it = Good
> > Not selling it = Bad
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > --- John <jr_esq@> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > MMY has warned readers about the use of hypnotism. 
> > > > > It is not the same 
> > > > > as meditation.  As I understand it, hypnotism does
> > > > > not free one from 
> > > > > the gunas.  Rather, it makes one be more attached to
> > > > > the gunas.
> > > > 
> > > > Meditation has its place. Hypnosis has its place.
> > > > Reading this post makes you more "attached" to the
> > > > gunas. John instead of repeating boilerplate TM dogma,
> > > > try thinking independently. Quite refreshing,
> > > > actually.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I have never been a TM teacher.  So, I don't proclaim to know 
all of 
> > > the TM dogma.  Personally, I am specifically addressing how MMY 
would 
> > > react to hypnotism, as he had mentioned on his commentary to 
the Gita.
> > > 
> > > Based on my experience with the TM practice, I am confirming 
the 
> > > reason why MMY has questions about the use of hypnotism.
> > > 
> > > Overall, as MMY states in his commentary, people take on the 
practice 
> > > of meditation for different purposes.  There are those who seek 
> > > knowledge of truth.  And, there are those who seek a reprieve 
from 
> > > misery.  According to the Gita, either objectives are valid 
reasons 
> > > to take up meditation or yoga.
> > > 
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