you have some growing up to do, sir-- answers below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For me the reason one would inquire as to the Nature of Mind is that > it allows one to see the illusion of self built on self-and- other: > the codependent arising of the virtual self. That insight allows our > Ethical Know-How to arise as a direct experience.
ethics are a belief, not a naturally arising direct experience. and belief is the antithesis of experience. Once one begins see > self as largely fragmented, transitory--inescapably so--the radical > 'not-doing' of mindfulness fosters a freedom from conditioned states > of mind which further fosters increased mindfulness in more and more > areas of our life. Eventually we realize there is no self in any of > our interactions--an experience which can be quite unnerving at first. who is realizing this? > But once one 'gets used to' this more unified, less self-centered > perspective and the mind relaxes more and more into awareness, "relaxes into awareness"? makes no sense. awareness IS; no rleaxation necessary. a > natural sense of warmth and inclusiveness begins to appear naturally. bullsh*t. > Self interest naturally is replaced with interest in others. did you memorize this? The full > realization of our innate groundlessness or empty-nature cannot occur > without that sense of warmth. who has brainwashed you into this? someone is guessing at this, and making the assumption that what is true with the contaminated mind is true with a clean mind, only more so. Sort of how to gain liberation, in terms of bondage. real BS. Eventually we understand that the > Nature of Mind, of groundlessness, is compassion. So it's really > about coming into contact with our own Ethical Know-How--our innate > virtue. We had it all along. what a huge load of bullsh*t. stinky. > > The reason some systems of meditation place an emphasis on ethical > behavior isn't because they want us to be good boys and girls, but > because it's easier to grasp empty nature, our groundlessness, if we > mimic it's natural qualities. oh really? LOL-- again, "learn from the lessons of prison, for they will apply when you are free". stinky. The relative Awakened Heart is the > basic starting point for realizing the absolute Awakened Heart. what?!!? "the relative Awakened Heart"--are you f*ckin' kidding me??? > Absolute Awakened Heart allows Virtue to arise relatively as well: > spontaneous appropriate action beyond naive compassion. > someone has sold you a real load, Mr Vaj. you've probably been studying this stuff for years-- I've got a big hint for you- make a big u-turn and run for your life!
