--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Brahmanand Saraswati?
> > > > 
> > > > Emphatically YES. And a yogi with ram (fire) siddhi (at very
> > > > least).
> > > 
> > > You wouldn't really know. Your information is only because you've
> > > 'heard' about them. I knew Satyanand and I experience Swami
> > > Brahmananda Saraswati practically daily.
> > 
> > Not to argue but to reinforce my point in post #163860,
> > John, aren't you assuming that your subject "experience"
> > of Brahmananda Saraswati "trumps" anything that Vaj
> > could possibly say, or that anyone else on *Earth*
> > could possibly say?
> > 
> > It's your experience; therefore it is true.
> > 
> > Thank you for providing such a perfect example of that
> > tenth criterion of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
> > that I was talking about.
> 
> Actually, you've got the context of what they're
> arguing about wrong, because you're more interested
> in dumping on John and preaching your standard
> sermons than in understanding what they're saying.
> 
> > ( For the record...what you experience COULD be true.
> > I don't know. My only point is that you don't either.
> > You only assume it's true because it's *your* subjective
> > experience. That is almost the classic definition of
> > narcissism. )
> 
> Uh, no, it isn't.
> 
> But it's kind of fun to go back and look at
> Barry's rants about how important it is to
> trust your own experience. For example:
> 
> "There are a few people here on FFL who have
> had such subjective experiences, whether it be
> of odd phenomena or their own subjective exper-
> iences of higher states of consciousness. I like
> dealing with them *because* I can identify with
> the changes that their subjective experiences and
> learning to trust them have put them through."
> 
> And even funnier:
> 
> "You'll notice that most of the people who *have*
> had interesting experiences of higher states of
> consciousness or of extraordinary phenomena
> rarely, if ever, talk about them any more. Jim's
> about the only one who dares to brave the boring,
> terrified turd-throwers any more. Rory's silent,
> Tom's mainly silent, and a few people have left
> altogether.
> 
> "The bottom line, as I see it, is that the wimps
> have WON, *especially* after the migration of a
> couple of compulsive-poster wimps from alt.m.t.
> Those two, together with anon_couscous and a
> few others who don't even have the balls to use
> their own names here, have made Fairfield Life
> a distinctly UNFRIENDLY environment in which to
> talk about one's own spiritual experiences."
> 
> One of the "compulsive-poster wimps from alt.m.t"
> Barry was referring to just happened to be do.rflex
> (John), the guy he's now dumping on because John
> trusts his experience of Guru Dev.


Ironically, "compulsive-poster wimp from alt.m.t" describes Barry to a T.




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