--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Feb 7, 2008, at 7:26 PM, do.rflex wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 2008, at 6:38 PM, do.rflex wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Maharishi's answer doesn't clearly account for, as an example, > > > > Satyanand's stated experience of hearing Guru Dev's voice > > *after* Guru > > > > Dev's body had ceased to function. Nor does it account for my own > > > > current experiences of Guru Dev, visually and telepathically. > > [Unless > > > > of course, one claims that Guru Dev hadn't attained Cosmic > > > > Consciousness.] > > > > > > > > Interestingly, I remember that exchange at Humboldt, as I waited > > on > > > > every word. And I shared the frustration I sensed in the person > > that > > > > asked that question as Maharishi did not clarify it > > satisfactorily. > > > > [snip] > > > > > Regarding early TMO pundits and "teachers": 'they certainly > > weren't no > > > Acharyas'. :-) > > > > Brahmachari Satyanand, whom I referred to, had spent many years with > > Guru Dev as a disciple. After Guru Dev's 'death' he later went on to > > assist Maharishi spreading Transcendental Meditation, as I understand > > it, until he died himself. I attended a course he conducted at Lake > > Arrowhead in the early 70s and spoke with him individually and > > privately at least three times, one of which was to receive an > > advanced technique. I say this mainly to indicate that Satyanand was > > directly involved with Guru Dev and Maharishi both. > > > IME it's not a guarantee that these people are completely and > holistically trained in these sciences. I really, honestly, see most > of them as naive.
Fact is, you haven't seen Guru Dev or Brahmachari Satyanand at all.