Edg, Thanks for the heads up...and his post pretty much spoke for itself. The tone of it was pretty off putting and reminded me of what a true believer sounds like when they are ranting...just that he's coming from another perspective. I've lurked on here for awhile and I can tell there's some good folks around here and some nuts as well! Thanks!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wvansant111, > > In case you don't know, nablusoss1008 is one of the cruelest, > sludge-mouthed, deeply flawed, hateful, serial concept killers on the > Web. He probably dresses like a Goth, but there's no mistaking that > he attacks like a Hun. > > I found your insights open and honest. Please don't let nablusoss1008 > (often referred to as Knob/Nab) mean anything at all to you. > > Now, if you just give me a few minutes I'll work up a "warning" about > just about everyone who posts here -- ahem. > > Still, Knob is such a feral energy I had to write. There's other rats, > gnats and lice here, so hang in there. It takes quite awhile to get > clarity about who's who and get comfortable posting for/to the minds > you resonate with instead of posting to counter the scribbling of the > black hearted creeps. I'm still learning how to pick my battles here, > so I cannot tell you it'll be easy. I liked your energy, so I'm > hoping to stick around. I had four kids, so I know some of your reality. > > Now, here's the sad part: some of what Knob said below is probably > true, but he uses truth to hurt feelings and shame folks instead of > using it for opening up to deeper intimacy and true communication. > > Take care. > > Edg > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wvansant111" > > <wvansant111@> wrote: > > > > > > I really do appreciate everyone's responses. > > > > Yes, the people here are exremely insightful. > > > > Hehe, you got it ! :-) You want knowledge and understand then you > > have come to the right place. Please pay particular attention to > > those that practised for a while and then dropped it because they > > are the ones that really know. > > > > I've always done > > > the "take what I need, leave the rest" approach and its worked for > > > me. Altho i did work for some movement folks and Mother Divine for > > > awhile with mixed experience. Some was good, some was bad. > > > > Both Mother Divine and the socalled "Purusha" are in deep waters. > > I > > > certainly didn't buy into everything they did or said but what > > would > > > mess up my head every once in awhile, > > > > Like I said; stay away from them if you want to be in good mental > > shape and a good mother. > > > > I'd find I'd agree with them in > > > spite of that. For example, I DID feel I could think a bit clearer > > in > > > vastu structures. > > > > It's just a result of you having been told it is beneficial. It is > > not, it's a total scam ! Any benefits from that nonsense is just > > your imaginations. > > > > Was that self deception > > > > Yes indeed ! > > > > or was there something to > > > it? > > > > No of course not. Just ask anybody here. They have probably never > > been in such a building, but they have great expertize in all fields > > of life. > > > > So I kept feeling that when things I saw seemed strange that made > > > no sense to me, I just thought maybe in time it would make sense > > when > > > I was more enlightened. > > > > Yes, better stay away from TM for awhile, then you will be able to > > see everything much more clear ! > > > > > I think I was dangerously close to getting sucked into the TMO. > > > > Lucky you escaped, eh !? Very good ! It's your good karma for > > sure ! :-) > > > > Maybe > > > I'll write about those experiences some other time. > > > > You must ! I am sure your writings are of great benefit and of > > interest for many people. You are a great soul, an old soul you > > know ! Can't wait to read it ! > > > > Being around and > > > witnessing the whole Heavenly Mtn shake down was eye opening. > > > > Schocking, was it ? Please write about it - we really want all the > > details ! If they are too shocking then you can always mail Rick > > Archer here on the side, he'll be glad to pass it on anonymously. > > > > Also, > > > seeing some of the realities at the Ideal Girls School was an > > > interesting experience. Seeing that reality did not match > > > the "ideals." > > > > This is just that thing: The ideals do not match reality. Very > > interesting observation. Better leave the whole thing alone, you > > will never experience anything remotely close to what is "ideal" > > anyway so why bother ? > > > > And finally, having children and getting out of that > > > world completely, making friends with other families that don't do > > TM > > > and realizing we have a lot more in common than I thought > > > > Yes, yes. You are not as strange as you thought when you where in > > that cult you see. You are very normal ! > > > > (tho I > > > still struggle with the lifestyle differences). They are curious > > and > > > accepting of my TM practice. > > > > They are just paying lip service. Amongst themselves they think you > > are completely off, only they'll never let you know that they Know. > > > > And I've learned that other people have > > > whole other areas of hollistic knowledge that I know nothing about > > > too. > > > > Yes. There is a vastness of knowledge out there. Get it all, or at > > least as much as you can ! You only perhaps use about 10% of your > > brain, remember !? Fill it up with as much information as possible. > > Read books ! > > > > Although I do see clearly that TM has benefits for us, I came > > > down off that "higher than thou" TM superiority. > > > > Disgusting, truly very, very bad. They think they are more evolved > > than others, don't they ?! It's sad - we are all equal, old souls. > > > > I don't preach to > > > anyone. In fact, I had a friend who learned TM recently and > > > I've "warned" her of some of the things to be careful of. > > > > YES ! Very, very important. Do not let her make own experiences. > > Please tell her all the strange things you have heard, the more the > > better and do not hold anything back. If you heard some rumours > > please pass them along adding some extra flavors of your own. Better > > still; tell the person to take a break from TM altogether ! It is > > really not good that she is innoscent much longer now. And you can > > help her ! In the long run she will thank you for it ! > > > > I've > > > intergrated my life more in general and its been healthy and good > > for > > > me. > > > > > > I have had some wonderful experiences during meditation and > > typically > > > feel good afterwards. One thing I notice the most after a good > > > program is how dimensional and beautiful everything looks. My mind > > > definitely feel clearer and more alert. I never doubted my > > practice > > > too much but being open to reading what I did about the "history" > > > behind it got me wondering...if it doesn't come from Guru Dev or a > > > tradition than what is it? What exactly is it doing to the human > > > mind? I don't have answers yet, just wondering. > > > > Now listen; this is very important. Just because you felt some > > little good here and there with TM does not mean that it really is > > beneficiary. Whatever you have read somewere is much more important > > than your own experiences ! Never forget this. > > > > > > > > And of course the big question is...do I pass this on to my > > children > > > and have them initiated. > > > > Why should you ? There is no need ! > > > > My son is five now. We've taught him a very > > > open form of spirituality. We talk about God all the time and he > > says > > > extremely insightful things about what he believes about God and > > the > > > universe. He says he would like to meditate. > > > > Exactly, simply childish fantasies. You are his mother, you are > > older and more wise. Ignore his questions about spirituality. When > > he becomes older he will forget the whole thing and perhaps come to > > his senses and perhaps take up Buddhist Vipassana ! You can put > > questions to our dear Vaj here at FFL about it, he will be happy to > > answer anything about this advanced form of meditation. > > > > Should we wait until > > > he's a little older and more consenting? I really don't want to > > > coerce him into anything but since we feel TM has helped us in our > > > life, of course we want that for them as well > > > > Remember; the benefits you are mentioning is only something you > > feel. That does not make them real. Ask Turq here on FFL about this - > > he knows everything about reality. Why pass something that is not of > > real benefit over to your son ? > > > > > Since I can't be regular with 2 small kids running around anyway, > > I'm > > > thinking maybe as an experiment I'd try ditching it for a month, > > and > > > then doing it regularly for a month. > > > > Brilliant idea ! Very good ! After some time not doing it you will > > feel much more normal. Just like everyone else ! Then you'll just > > forget the whole idea about transcending, deep rest, personal growth > > and whatnot. > > > > > > Anyway, must run...living room dance party is ensuing. > > > > Nice, enjoy your party ! :-) > > > > With greetings to your son. > > Nablusoss > > >
