--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> > 
> > -----It's very fun stuff, but this thinking isn't the stuff of 
> enlightenment, it's just more arrogant and ever specious 
> conceptualization.
> 
> Or not.
> 
> ----You like coming back at opinions with less than one liners.  
But they are meaningless. Often. How about explaining how talking 
about interstellar dark matter and so on is anything less than 
egotism and elitism.

How about explaining how you can hope to keep up with John Hagelin's 
understanding, however skewed it may be, of such things?


> 
> As with many people who have made themselves immune to formal 
discussion by taking the most esoteric POV that they could muster, 
Haeglen also has made himself a heavenly arbour bower in his mind.  
One of math and physics, none of which can at present be proven. He 
is a pseudo scientist, not a real scientist.  He gave up his lab 
jacket for an open ticket to Maharishi mano a mano.
> 


That might be, but again, what evidence do we have that you are 
capable of judging Hagelin's credentials, current or former, when it 
comes to science?

> I never heard him say one thing to another person that wasn't 
completely condescending. It's all theory. Do you think Lawson that 
that's what enlightenment is?  Some extra special theoritician-
ability?
>

I've had face-to-face meetings with Hagelin where we discussed 
esoteric theories. I never got the impression that he was being 
condenscending to me. Of course, perhaps I am too unsubtle to catch 
the nuances that you are able to catch?





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