Thanks for feedback.  I guess the messiah the Jews are expecting, 
has yet to come, obviously.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" 
> <steve.sundur@> wrote:
> <snip>
> >  > 2 Corinthians 3:13-16
> > > 13 We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face
> > > to keep the Israelites from gazing at it while the radiance
> > > was fading away. 
> > > 14 But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same
> > > veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been 
> > > removed, because only in Christ is it taken away. 
> > > 15 Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their 
> > > hearts. 
> > > 16 But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken
> > > away.
> > > Romans 7:6
> > 
> > Yea, I like this.  Given what we know about people in power
> > doing anything to hold on to power, it's kinda hard to argue
> > that Jesus was not the Jewish Messiah.
> 
> Actually it's dead easy to argue. The messiah
> prophesied in the Hebrew Scriptures--who is to
> take down the people in power--is to be a human
> being. The notion of a divine messiah was (and
> is) the worst kind of blasphemy in Judaism.
> 
> What Paul is claiming here is that Jews are
> essentially too spiritually stupid to recognize
> that their own scriptures are wrong.
> 
> Yet Fundamentalist Christians refer to Jews who
> have converted to Christianity as "completed Jews."
> 
> Right. Toss out the Jewish Scriptures, and your
> Jewishness will be complete.
> 
> To my mind, that's hard to beat for offensiveness.
> (And my heritage, BTW, is Christian.)
>


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