Irmeli, your question is right on the money. Hitler was schooled in Le Bon's 1895 The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind. It is still a good source for how social engineering is done. Young Dove recently posted an excellent "rant" on how easy it is to sway the masses. It is the result of "education" or, rather, "programming," and brainwashing that you see in the Muslim world today. You can also see it in American fundamentalists and in the American black community.
--- Irmeli Mattsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli > Mattsson" > > <Irmeli.Mattsson@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Angela! > > > > > > I also know personally some Muslims or former > Muslims, who have come > > > as refugees to Finland, and they are truly fine > people. E.g. I have > > > learned to know a conductor from Afghanistan, to > whom I'm hiring an > > > apartment. I don't perceive any serious defects > in his reasoning. > > > During the years I have also hired apartments to > many kinds of > > > Muslims. And I have seen severe domestic > violence.The Muslim men are > > > allowed to beat their wifes. The women are > practically always very > > > submissive, fearful.They don't speak to me, even > if I'm a woman. > > > > > > Even the man interviewed in TV, I described > earlier seemed to be a > > > decent human being. However there were glaring > defects in his > > > reasoning concerning those matters.In other > areas of life he probably > > > would do better. > > > Strong religious beliefs makes it almost > impossible to think clearly, > > > because then you would need to start questioning > the ultimate truths > > > of the doctrine.The same problem is in other > religions. Although > > > questioning is in them usually easier. The > sanctions of doing it are > > > not so horrifying. > > > > > > Irmeli > > > > > > > Healthy humans can generally be really nice, > spiritual, friendly > > people. However, they are also capable of > subscribing to belief > > systems whose realization can shock modern liberal > minds. > > > > We westerners put a value on freedom of > expression. We have no > > problem with rational dialog on any subject. > These nice friendly > > spirits have made death threats to anyone making > the slightest > > satirical comment on their icons. They shut down > dialog with threats. > > These wonderful neighbors can be very kind, but > they also have > > iron-age values that clash with the modern. > > > > Imagine if we transplanted a group of brilliant > ancient minds like > > Aristotle's into modern times. They may come off > as polished, > > intellectual, astute people. However they would > be offended by they > > way we treat our women, look for non-military > solutions, give freedom > > to slaves, question authority and so on. > > > > No doubt many third world people embrace > modernity, assimilate it and > > contribute wonderfully to society. Part of this > process requires > > understanding ancient tribal/religious identities > as secondary to > > modern beliefs in humanism, tolerance, and > science. > > > > s. > > > > Stu, I again agree with you in this. > However I have recently started to ask myself this > question: > Muslims were in medieval times probably a more > evolved and tolerant > culture than the Christian Europeans. > In an absolute sense they probably were not more > evolved than they now > are, but the Europeans were then even lower. > Then why is it that the Christian Europe, or the > western culture > generally has been able to evolve hugely, while the > Muslim culture has > got stuck in the their medieval times level? > > Irmeli > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
