Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

[Llundrub]

I have this figured out for myself. Maybe this will help you who haven't or maybe not.   Thoughts arise.  They arise from different places. In the body. Different places in space. If one is broad then when thoughts move one can act to satisfy them. One is then working for the cosmos.   What happens though is the thoughts reach a culmination in the brain where they are vocalized. By the time they are vocalized and thought over they have left the more subtle realm from which they arose, and are therefore not so easily manifested.   At that point, the grasping after them further lessens their power. The rememberance of the thought and its concatenation even further binds the thought until it is completely out of synch with the circumstances from which it arose. At this point, to act upon the thought is to be attacking the outer circles of the mandala of oneself.   If one doesn't identify with any thought, or become attached to any thought then as a thought arises then it also is a reflection of circumstances, or better yet, is spontaneously arisen from the very source of thought. If left untouched then it liberates into awareness. If it's still in the energetic space and one can sense where it's going then to work with it then makes its fulfillment easier.   The ego may very well still exist as the repository of the basic space of the phenomena, but the thoughts are not belonging to the ego, but to basic matter/space itself, and one is merely a gardener cultivating ones garden.   This only applies to the person who lives with energy and not with matter in a concrete way.    Just let go.  Then see what arises, and go with that. The body is The Temple. Then Temple knows what it needs.    The problem is when the outer cemetary of the mind - the ego, trys to run it.       ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 12:25 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote: > a fun experiment to try: close your eyes, and one by one eliminate > the motion of the mind; no projection right, left, up, down, > backwards, forwards. Just bring it to a quiet stop, no thought. > Allow the senses to continue to operate, just don't interact with > their objects. > > Then, where is I? no idea. > > If you attempt on the other hand to think your way into an > understanding of enlightenment, you will get some reasonable > approximate understanding, but the trick then is to use that as a > spur for the heart to thirst more for enlightenment, and not allow > the ego instead to pursue this idealized concept of enlightenment, > (leading to more musing and thinking). Stupid ego. > > It always sounds so complicated when it is thought about. Works a > lot better to just not think about it. Then you will find it, and > all of your answers will come quickly and effortlessly.  "It's a lot better just to not think about it", well there's a discussion stopper. It just makes me feel sorry for all those great minds over the centuries that spent their entire lives trying to express abstract spiritual truths on paper. Think of all the effort they could have saved by instructing everyone to just not think about it. Uh oh, two "thinks" in one sentence, way too much thinking going on.OSF* *obligatory smiley face (first instituted by LBS) Rick Carlstrom To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.