> It seems to me that other aspects of MMY's teaching > imply that for a siddhi to occur, Nature has to "want" > it to occur. Or to put it another way, what the person > in higher consciousness wants can only be what Nature > "wants."
This point (which I also appeal to concerning the lack of my 6-pack abs) is not one that I ever heard Maharishi himself make. Whenever he talked about performance of the sidhis it was always in terms of them being as natural as any other ability we have and that they would be commonplace and volitional, no big deal that "nature" would need to hide. It seems to give a sort of "out", but then it makes all of Maharishi's claims about the virtues of enlightenment come into question. Like our discussions about whether or not an enlightened person can be an asshole or even homicidal killer if "nature wants it that way" as is often glorified in the Vedic literature. (Bhima made Ted Bundy look like a choir boy) I guess this reasoning might provide some solace to the TBs (I am not talking about Judy here especially after her excellent point about the Constitution in another post) but it is lame in the light of the many "Yogic flying" demonstrations and promotion of the "special abilities" gained by the sidhis at this point. I mean forget the flashy stuff, how about seeing that the movement is permeated with an extra dose of the virtue sidhis? Other than the superficial love bombing that goes on in many groups with visitors they what to impress with how great their group is, under the surface is at best an average group of people concerning their friendliness, compassion or even happiness. And if anyone can even get close to the strength of an elephant, could you send them over to my house to help me move a closet full of book boxes with their mighty trunk? My point is that Maharishi didn't think out the sidhis demonstration claims as carefully as you have Judy. He was selling the dream without qualification. I know that people don't do sidhis to become stronger, they do them for the mental enhancement, but reeeeaaaaallllllly now, shouldn't there be even a hint that some of them are working a tad after 30 years? I don't mean one or two rumors but a bunch of interesting shit going on? Maharishi was wrong about the sidhis working and now the movement focuses on the stuff that can't really be objectively evaluated like the ME or that it makes people feel "better." It may have never been emphasized for people in the "field" but Maharishis promised his slave laborers at sidhaland mastery of the sidhis in 3 years. It was not a claim about how we would feel inside or the world peace it would achieve, it was about mastery of sidhis. And all these years later we are left with people's wonderful coincidence stories as if no one else didn't have a thought of Aunt Martha who we haven't spoken to in years right before the phone rang with her on the line. Now I have grown up beyond a desire to fly through the air or do magical things. Life is far too rich without these things. Playing "Freight Train" straight through without any mistakes is the kind of "special ability" I seek, and it gives me all the joy I need in my life. But concerning the so called sidhis (trade mark registered internationally and subject to litigation for any infringement real or perceived by any of the conglomerated companies and or representatives of Maharishi Multi Mega Corp): I'm calling this one guys. Sidhis are not happening. Not behind closed doors of King Nader's palace, not in the mildew infested golden breasts of MIU (what, it's only me who sees them that way?) Not anywhere but in the imagination of people who spend a lot of time in a floaty meditative state of mind that makes such dreams seem more likely. Of course if that is what makes them happy, it isn't any of my business...I've got a bunch of boxes to move (It may get me closer to that 6-pack) and a few more hundred reps on "Freight Train." http://youtube.com/watch?v=i4upnkwLOzY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <richardhughes103@> > wrote: > <snip> > > I'd love to see Tony Nader fly, it would make my day! I can't > > think of a reason why someone wouldn't want to demonstrate > > sidhi powers. The old "I don't want to be remembered as a > > circus act" excuse doesn't wash, if you want people to > > believe you know what you're talking about I can think of > > no better way. > > It seems to me that other aspects of MMY's teaching > imply that for a siddhi to occur, Nature has to "want" > it to occur. Or to put it another way, what the person > in higher consciousness wants can only be what Nature > "wants." > > In other words, if Nature doesn't "want" a siddhi > demonstrated at a given place and time--for whatever > unfathomable reason--the person being asked to > demonstrate it will simply find himself or herself not > wanting to. He or she may come up with all kinds of > lame excuses, not really knowing why s/he doesn't want > to do the demonstration. >