--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> One may be simple translation. The word often used in the spiritual  
> sciences for the western word science is "vidya". However vidya has a  
> deeper meaning that the western term science, as it is less encumbered  
> by the taboo of subjectivity which stultifies western science. The  
> taboo of subjectivity

I Know! All that scientific, white-coat, pocket protector eggheads get
so riled up about cognitive biases and self-serving results. Whew.
When will they get a clue! 

> in the west has a lot to do with the way the  
> scientific fundamentalism 

You nailed it brother. What a bunch of literalists with massive
blinders on. I mean when they read their scientific journals, they
actually interpret each word in a precise and literal sense. No
creativity. No seeing the big picture of the Known View. No
understanding, a priori, of how things really are. I only pray to
Jesus that I will never fall into that abyss of ignorance.

> came about but it is also a shared element  
> with religious fundamentalism, as both have placed a taboo on  
> subjectivity. 

I Know! If they delve into subjectivity its only that intersubjective
validation crap -- where a whole lot of people need to agree that they
seez the same thing. I mean, GD it, I see what i see, and its the damn
Truth! no matter if anyone else seez it. 

> Both believe they are heading towards an absolute truth,  

Yes, if anything, you have hit the nail on the head. Their premier
tenent of modern science is the discovery and defense of Absolute
Truth, Once Absolute Truth is found, there's no looking back. No
counter theories, no debate, no critiques Specially if its MY absolute
truth.

> one based on science's grokking of Nature, the other through the  
> absolute word of god.

I know! I hate that damn Journal of Scientific Groks. Scientists are
so confused that they all think Scientific Groking reveals Truth (the
ONE Truth)
 
> The actual basis for what we call science is in fact based on Greek  
> and Hebrew religious and philosophical beliefs which all assert that a  
> god or gods created the universe we inhabit before he/she/they created  
> humans--this a basis for scientific realism which in turn was a basis  
> for scientific materialism.

YOU are so right on today! First you are right, if jews and
goat-slamming greeks came up with it, its really suspect. And I took
some undergraduate science, and hung out with some science grad
students, and they told me the secret -- science is really all based
on a core belief that gods created the universe. Its like in the first
chapter of ALL science texts.


> 
> This is actually a rather lengthy and detailed topic, 

I know -- and I am too lame to understand it, so I am so glad you are
giving me the distilled version. And plus, being your subjective
truth, that makes it even more golden.

>as one has to  
> explain what the taboo of subjectivity is and how it came about, along  
> with our current paradigms.

I Know! can't them knucklehead scientists see that they are locked
into a paradigm.
 


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