--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > One may be simple translation. The word often used in the spiritual > sciences for the western word science is "vidya". However vidya has a > deeper meaning that the western term science, as it is less encumbered > by the taboo of subjectivity which stultifies western science. The > taboo of subjectivity
I Know! All that scientific, white-coat, pocket protector eggheads get so riled up about cognitive biases and self-serving results. Whew. When will they get a clue! > in the west has a lot to do with the way the > scientific fundamentalism You nailed it brother. What a bunch of literalists with massive blinders on. I mean when they read their scientific journals, they actually interpret each word in a precise and literal sense. No creativity. No seeing the big picture of the Known View. No understanding, a priori, of how things really are. I only pray to Jesus that I will never fall into that abyss of ignorance. > came about but it is also a shared element > with religious fundamentalism, as both have placed a taboo on > subjectivity. I Know! If they delve into subjectivity its only that intersubjective validation crap -- where a whole lot of people need to agree that they seez the same thing. I mean, GD it, I see what i see, and its the damn Truth! no matter if anyone else seez it. > Both believe they are heading towards an absolute truth, Yes, if anything, you have hit the nail on the head. Their premier tenent of modern science is the discovery and defense of Absolute Truth, Once Absolute Truth is found, there's no looking back. No counter theories, no debate, no critiques Specially if its MY absolute truth. > one based on science's grokking of Nature, the other through the > absolute word of god. I know! I hate that damn Journal of Scientific Groks. Scientists are so confused that they all think Scientific Groking reveals Truth (the ONE Truth) > The actual basis for what we call science is in fact based on Greek > and Hebrew religious and philosophical beliefs which all assert that a > god or gods created the universe we inhabit before he/she/they created > humans--this a basis for scientific realism which in turn was a basis > for scientific materialism. YOU are so right on today! First you are right, if jews and goat-slamming greeks came up with it, its really suspect. And I took some undergraduate science, and hung out with some science grad students, and they told me the secret -- science is really all based on a core belief that gods created the universe. Its like in the first chapter of ALL science texts. > > This is actually a rather lengthy and detailed topic, I know -- and I am too lame to understand it, so I am so glad you are giving me the distilled version. And plus, being your subjective truth, that makes it even more golden. >as one has to > explain what the taboo of subjectivity is and how it came about, along > with our current paradigms. I Know! can't them knucklehead scientists see that they are locked into a paradigm.