> > > But that's a TM teacher instruction, which is a separate issue
> > > from the thing about Sidhas at Fairfield visiting other gurus.
> > 
> > You're being an apologist again, Lawson.
> 
> Oh bull.
> 
> > The point is that this "instruction" is 
> > inappropriate in ANY context, when said
> > BY anyone, when said TO anyone. 
> 
> Bull again.
> 
> > Neither Maharishi nor any of his toadies
> > have or have ever had the right to make
> > such demands on ANYONE, be they TM teacher,
> > "Citizen Siddha," or Bozo the Clown.
> 
> Thrice bullshit. The rationale was given explicitly and anyone
> who disagreed with it quite literaly had no business being
> a TM teacher because they were claiming quite clearly that
> they were certain that TM was "the hghest path" and if they
> didn't agree with what they were saying, they had no  business
> saying it. MMY was simply establishing how to "walk the walk"
> in the public eye.
> 
> > *Telling* someone who they can see and who
> > they can't is the issue. *Submitting* to 
> > someone who is telling you who you can see 
> > and who you can't is the issue. The fact 
> > that you CAN make excuses for someone 
> > (ANYONE) telling another human being who 
> > they can see and who they can't is the
> > issue. 
> 
> In the context of being a TM teacher? Not at all.
> If they didn't want to play the game, they could 
> hang up the shingle and do whatever they wantedm
> in public or not.
> 
> > Forget about "spirituality" or "higher
> > evolution" or "advanced states of conscious-
> > ness" or any of that Woo Woo shit. Being
> > able to excuse such behavior on the part of
> > jealous tyrants indicates an almost complete 
> > lack of character and integrity in my book.
> 
> Your projection reminds me of John McCain's calling
> Barack Obama racist for mocking McCain's own use
> of Obama's picture on a $100 dollar bill.
> 
> Fact is, MMY set up specific guidelines for the public behavior 
> of TM teachers who wanted to be TM teachers in good standing with
> the organization. If they didn't like the guidelines, they didn't
> have to participate in being a TM teacher.

Lawson, I'm not going to get into this with you.
Did you notice the "in my book" part in what I 
wrote earlier, and below? That's the same as 
saying "in my opinion." My opinion hasn't changed 
as a result of you throwing a hissy fit and 
screaming "Bull." And it's not likely to.

You are obviously COMFORTABLE with someone 
having the right to tell you what to do and who
you can see and who you can't and (essentially)
what you are permitted to think and what you are
not (because you are not allowed access to any 
heretical ideas). 

I am not, and will never be. In ANY context, but
especially in a "spiritual" context, which is
theoretically supposed to be about helping some-
one to liberation. One does not achieve that goal
by imprisoning people in my opinion. 

Your mileage may vary, and obviously does. I stand
on my original statement: "Being able to excuse such 
behavior on the part of jealous tyrants indicates 
an almost complete lack of character and integrity 
in my book." End of discussion.



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