--- > > Yes MMY exaggerated, IMO! Did you honestly think after only a few > years of TM you'd reach the very pinnacle of Human evolution? A > culmination of which is so grand and amazing as to baffle the imagination?
Perhaps it baffles the imagination is the problem.Stop imagining and practice.Here is the way that centering prayer people say it from the contemplative outreach..You use your sacred word or your t.m mantra or your zazen shikantaza or anapanna, or what ever method or technique that suits your ability to sit twice a day for 20 to 30 minutes or so as your intention to God in the cloud of unknowing.You give your consent to the willful transformation of yourself by a God of no image or concept and then you pay attention.So the culimation of the practice no matter what your cultural resonance might be is ( Intention/Attention) I think this is about as good and righteous as you can get.All the super ego imposition of morals and ethics are simply that..Some thing imposed on you, your essential nature...your essence..Essence maybe rather stupid or socially imature but it is basiclly always food..It is pure.Ypou think you are not enlightened because people have imposed their spiritual laws and views on you and you believe that you need to be fixed or redeemed or saved or liberated.I think what we all really need to do is not be afraid and to desire to want to grow ,consider the morals and ethics and just keep on practicing.. Yes quite frankly there are a lot of things that Maharishi said that I dont take very seriously any more. C.C ( turiya) witnessing isnt that big of a deal. If you arent doing this while asleep you can use the ever present witness meditation and start doing it right now while you are awake.Oh Incidently from some schools pof thought and most christian contemplative and gnostic groups suggest that the third state of consciousness is self reflective self consciousness..The deal about this like Gurdjieff said its like the terror of the situation..One begins to develope a conscience that is ones own and not something that is super ego imposed over you.Its very important to get to this point of non identification to my shallow empty insignifigance and take my reference point as that witness..What ever you can observe in your self.....see it claim it and name it you are already not it and beginning to non identify with it.If I sit around and identify to my shallow ness, or imorality then I am that..Non identification is the key..Self reflective self consciousness is important but non critical non judgementally so.It paves the way to the 4th state of consciousness or objective consciousness..The real objective view//In other words ala Gurdjieff "Life is only real when I am" C.C is simply witnessing 24-7..Arent any of you doing that sponataneously after years of doing t.m? If it doesnt stay the part that is missing is self reflective self consciousness and Maharishi said thats not even neccesary..I never could buy that though myself. If you can witness an object how can you be afraid? If I have ways of behavior that are unpleasent,unkind, immoral unethical to know it I would have to first see it, 2nd claim it,3rd not identify with it 4th Keep on keeping on with that meditation practice giving ones consent and intention to God in that cloud of unknowing and then look around and pay attention..Baby its a wonderful ride :-) alan > > MMY himself finally said in Fuiggi, "It could take a million years to > reach CC, unless you come to these courses" so there you have it Alan, > you must practice Religion in order to grow morally and as a result, > spiritually, in conjunction with TM as Patanjali suggested in his > Ashtanga Yoga. (See appendix of MMY Gita) But then if you're willing > to pay the price of immoral living waiting for TM to 'kick in' that is > your business. > > ".......all limbs, or means, must be practiced,... simultaneously", > MMY Gita appendix on Yoga. > > > A dirty mirror cannot reflect the sun clearly, TM is BOTH purification > and infusion (of the being). One compliments the other........... >
