--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> While I agree with Paglia's assessment of what
> Sarah Palin's projected image is supposed to be,
> it's important in my opinion to remember that
> it's a LIE.

Unfortunately, you do not go on to demonstrate
that anything Paglia says about Palin is a LIE.

> When you have a candidate so weak that you won't
> allow her to do press interviews

She's doing a two-parter with Charles Gibson,
ABC News anchor, tomorrow and Friday.

, it REALLY
> DOESN'T MATTER whether she can fire an automatic
> weapon. It REALLY DOESN'T MATTER what her faux
> "frontier woman" persona is

Except that it isn't faux, it's completely
authentic.

 if she's never had
> the experience of dealing with military affairs

You mean, the kind of experience Obama has?

<snicker>

And military experience has nothing to do with
being a frontier woman, of course.

> (and she hasn't...the leader of the Alaska 
> National Guard has said in no uncertain terms
> that she was and never will be involved in any
> military decisions for the Guard). It REALLY
> DOESN'T MATTER even if she's "studied miliary
> history." That's not the same as having military
> experience.
> 
> In short, I think that Camille Paglia has done
> exactly what she has often done in the past. She
> has fallen for the *glammer*, for the *projected
> image* of one of her neofeminist heroines, rather
> than the actuality. She did it with Madonna, and
> now she's doing it with Sarah Palin.

Paglia doesn't claim Palin has military experience.
She says only that "a woman candidate for president
of the U.S. must show a potential capacity for
military affairs and decision-making." I haven't
seen anything to indicate that Palin doesn't have
such potential.

Did you read the article? Paglia's quite clear that
she's talking about the image Palin projects, and
she expresses no opinion about whether she'd make
a good vice president.

You haven't shown anything at all about Palin's
"actuality" that's in conflict with what Paglia
says about her. You've failed completely to make
any kind of point--other than to exhibit, once
again, your fear and loathing of strong women.




> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> >
> > Fresh blood for the vampire
> > 
> > by Camille Paglia
> > 
> > (...)
> > 
> > Conservative though she may be, I felt that Palin represented an  
> > explosion of a brand new style of muscular American feminism. At 
her  
> > startling debut on that day, she was combining male and female  
> > qualities in ways that I have never seen before. And she was 
somehow  
> > able to seem simultaneously reassuringly traditional and gung-ho  
> > futurist. In terms of redefining the persona for female authority 
and  
> > leadership, Palin has made the biggest step forward in feminism 
since  
> > Madonna channeled the dominatrix persona of high-glam Marlene  
> > Dietrich and rammed pro-sex, pro-beauty feminism down the throats 
of  
> > the prissy, victim-mongering, philistine feminist establishment.
> > 
> > In the U.S., the ultimate glass ceiling has been fiendishly  
> > complicated for women by the unique peculiarity that our 
president  
> > must also serve as commander in chief of the armed forces. Women 
have  
> > risen to the top in other countries by securing the leadership 
of  
> > their parties and then being routinely promoted to prime 
minister  
> > when that party won at the polls. But a woman candidate for 
president  
> > of the U.S. must show a potential capacity for military affairs 
and  
> > decision-making. Our president also symbolically represents the  
> > entire history of the nation -- a half-mystical role often 
filled  
> > elsewhere by a revered if politically powerless monarch.
> > 
> > As a dissident feminist, I have been arguing since my arrival on 
the  
> > scene nearly 20 years ago that young American women aspiring to  
> > political power should be studying military history rather than  
> > taking women's studies courses, with their rote agenda of never- 
> > ending grievances. I have repeatedly said that the politician 
who  
> > came closest in my view to the persona of the first woman 
president  
> > was Sen. Dianne Feinstein, whose steady nerves in crisis were  
> > demonstrated when she came to national attention after the mayor 
and  
> > a gay supervisor were murdered in their City Hall offices in San  
> > Francisco. Hillary Clinton, with her schizophrenic alteration of  
> > personae, has never seemed presidential to me -- and certainly 
not in  
> > her bland and overpraised farewell speech at the Democratic  
> > convention (which skittered from slow, pompous condescension to  
> > trademark stridency to unseemly haste).
> > 
> > Feinstein, with her deep knowledge of military matters, has true  
> > gravitas and knows how to shrewdly thrust and parry with pesky 
TV  
> > interviewers. But her style is reserved, discreet, mandarin. 
Sarah  
> > Palin is like Annie Oakley, a brash ambassador from America's 
pioneer  
> > past. She immediately reminded me of the frontier women of the  
> > Western states, which first granted women the right to vote after 
the  
> > Civil War -- long before the federal amendment guaranteeing 
universal  
> > woman suffrage was passed in 1919. Frontier women faced the same  
> > harsh challenges and had to tackle the same chores as men did --  
> > which is why men could regard them as equals, unlike the 
genteel,  
> > corseted ladies of the Eastern seaboard, which fought granting 
women  
> > the vote right to the bitter end. (...)
> > 
> > http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/09/10/palin/print.html
> >
>


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