--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ddeadlus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not here to "educate" you guys because I think I have something > that you need. I'm here to explore my own experience by either looking> at interesting questions or being challenged.
Fair enough. I'll keep checking to see if your state of mind allows you to write some stuff that is interesting to me. > > The way you're talking about self-absorption is the way everyone > functions. Not really. I don't assume that anyone here would be interested with my internal state, just my output in writing. People do things because it makes them happy (or at least > comfortable). If you don't have the same interests I do, then you > don't have to talk about it (although apparently you do, because I'm > responding to a message you just posted in response - you obviously > get something out of it). Fair enough. > > As to "how wonderful my internal state is," I'll tell you why you > could care: because you can have any experience you want by bringing > your attention there, and letting go of whatever pain, smallness, BS,> or whatever else is in the way. Thus, hearing about some aspect of my> experience could awaken part of your own experience. And this isn't> because "I got it" or some other bullshit like that, it's because> anyone's expanded experience can help anyone else, no matter how> evolved or not evolved we feel we are. That's part of what I'm doing> here, looking for any pain or smallness that is in me that can be> released. I'm not buying that. I find the assumption that me hearing about your internal state will improve me in some way condescending. > > I'm not looking for people to hang on my every word. I'm looking for > questions or comments, and then to respond. We'll see if you get any takers. Most of the posters here have been down this road before. I'm only interested in your internal state AFTER you demonstrate some ability that I do not have from it. If I really wanted people > to love me for some fictional exalted state, I certainly wouldn't come > here. Enlightenment is not about the individual, so it confers no > deserving of specialness of exaltation that does not also apply to > everyone else. Think about it, if I'm really feeling connected without > boundaries (and fundamentally I definately am), any specialness that > separates you from me would actually be in the way. Thus, there is no > specialness I feel that applies to me but not everyone else. I'm not buying that rap about it not being about you. If it is any consolation I also don't buy it from any "spiritual teacher." I would like to see a once over by a clinical psychiatrist to rule out a dissociative personality disorder. I don't assume that all the talk about losing the small self and becoming unbounded is a positive development for a person. But, for > the record (even though of course don't care :) ) I do feel a lot of > specialness and exaltation that applies to all of us - meaning > everyone. Literally. Not that I don't still have issues of course. We all have issues, that is a given. One of mine is people claiming to be in a special state of mind. Thanks for responding and I hope you find what you are looking for here. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > Still I've heard that this group is wonderful for > > > > > talking about it,> > > and poking people. I would love to have > > either...answering> > > questions> > > about it, or hearing > > challenges, or whatever. > > > > > > When it comes to people's internal states I feel like Dennis Miller > > (before he became an insufferable right wing butthole) does about > > orgasms. My own fascinates me, yours doesn't interest me at all. > > > > Let's just assume that everyone here is enlightened up all they need. > > That "nature" is dictating our glorious existence and expressing > > itself through us perfectly. With this assumption you can get over > > yourself and your internal state and proceed to write something > > interesting TO US. Self absorption is totally boring. I really don't > > care how wonderful you think your internal state is. How could I? > > > > So far the only posters who claimed having an exalted internal state > > here have been very ordinary to boring posters with a bit of > > narcissism. Even the Maharishi himself, who was an above average > > charming guy usually, had the quality of self-engrandizement that wore > > thin. > > > > I am not speaking for everyone. Perhaps someone here is dying to hang > > on your every word about how wonderful your internal state is and play > > some game with you as a special answerer of life's questions. > > Personally, I would rather swallow a hand full of carpet tacks than > > listen to you crow about being "WHATEVER." > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ddeadlus <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, I thought it was pretty funny also. :) > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ha ha! It's quite a joke when all the mental constructs about "pure > > > consciousness" and "Realization" confront the absolute experiential > > > reality of no-content, no-self, no-boundary, pure absence of > any-thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/11/08, ddeadlus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: ddeadlus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Spiritual Enlightenment > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 6:48 PM > > > > > Well, I was feeling pretty good and Enlightened and such, > > > > > and then the > > > > > individual vanished. Poof. Total wholeness, nothingness, > > > > > or silence. > > > > > Deep rich nothingness silence wholeness. This is > > > > > it...Cannot be > > > > > unfulfilled anymore... > > > > > > > > > > This experience (for lack of a better word) is every > > > > > description of > > > > > Brahman I've ever heard of, from Maharishi or > > > > > otherwise. The > > > > > personality is certainly having some upheaval getting used > > > > > to it, but > > > > > in an incredibly awesome way. It's hard to describe, > > > > > which I suppose > > > > > is the point - if it were purely describable, then it > > > > > wouldn't be > > > > > completely whole... > > > > > > > > > > Still I've heard that this group is wonderful for > > > > > talking about it, > > > > > and poking people. I would love to have either...answering > > > > > questions > > > > > about it, or hearing challenges, or whatever. > > > > > > > > > > If you poke something long enough, the underlying truth > > > > > falls out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > Or go to: > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
