bbrigante wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>on 6/19/05 6:13 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >>>>Ammachi, Shree Maa, Karunamayi, Mirabai, Mother Meera, etc. etc. >>>> >>>> >>>I will presume that none of these ladies are recluses since you >>> >>> >are > > >>>mentioning Ammachi first, and she is clearly not a recluse. >>> >>> >Anyway, > > >>>what happens today in India or since the beginning of the >>> >>> >Kaliyuga is > > >>>not relevant since this is not Vedic India. The Vedic literature >>> >>> >does > > >>>not indicate that ladies became recluses, except that sometimes a >>>wife would accompany her husband when they abandoned householder >>> >>> >life > > >>>and went to live in the forest after their kids were grown up. >>> >>> > > > > >>All of them are/were involved in teaching, and in most cases, >> >> >traveling to > > >>teach, (add Ananda Moyi Mi to the list), but none are/were >> >> >householders. So > > >>I guess that makes them recluses. Would you say Maharishi is a >> >> >recluse, or > > >>do you distinguish between recluse and monk? >> >> > > >I would use the ordinary dictionary definition of recluse here: > >withdrawn from society; seeking solitude; "lived an unsocial >reclusive life" >hermit: one who lives in solitude > >so anybody who is out teaching is not a recluse. However, after one >gains enlightenment, their desires are nature's desires. Guru Dev >took sanyas at age 34, and then remained silent when they asked him >to become Shankaracharya, which the people took to be an OK. The >point about OM is that use by people who are not suited to be >recluses will create problems (I'm talking about regular use of OM in >meditation, not occasional use), so householders should use >householder mantras. > > > > I think they mean to say "renunciate" not "recluse." I once got corrected when I applied the term.
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