--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Ms. Enlightened: > > On Sep 29, 2008, at 12:10 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: > > > The generally accepted figure is that around 2 million people have > > learned TM worldwide, Mr. Vaj. Even if just one half of one percent > > are continuing the practice (assuming 99.5% no longer do TM), that > > is still 100,000 meditators globally. > > > > You would have had to have done an awful lot of talking with > > practitioners of the technique to be making your claim of majorities > > faking witnessing and ranting about enlightenment. > > > > Perhaps you are right. However to continue claiming these are facts > > as you represent them speaks more to the attachment of you to your > > story than it does any basis in fact. > > > Since scientists have already determined the EEG criteria of both > Patanjali yogins in samadhi and Buddhist yogins in samadhi as the > same: High-Amplitude Gamma coherence; and the fact this has yet to be > observed in TMers, I'd say the prospect looks pretty grim, esp. given > the numbers you propose and zero so far. As soon as I see good > scientific evidence of this in TM practitioners, I'll stop and > celebrate with everyone else. As I pointed out in my post to Ruth, > yogic-style enlightenment has some long-known and pretty darn > impressive qualities. You know as well as I do that if these were > observed in TM practitioners that not only would they be touting the > scientific evidence, we'd be hearing about it all over the media! > > That's of course not to deny the benefits of TM which a well-known > relaxation effect, the so-called relaxation response. Relaxation is a > good thing. > > Do you have some evidence we're not aware of? >
What scientists claim that high gamma is the EEG of samadhi? BTW, during TM yogic flying practice, high coherence in all bands is found, just before "liftoff," so you're a tad out of date on your assertion. By about 30 years. Lawson
