Kali Sadhaka Garanth.  It is a tantric tradition.  My guru's guru 
learned from the son of the "Perfume Saint" mentioned in Autobiography 
of a Yogi."
http://www.realtantrasolutions.com

- Bhairitu

Ingegerd wrote:

>In what tradition do you belong?
>Ingegerd
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>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>Exactly and that is why you are using long mantras.  ;-)
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>>The guru mantra is a mantra that has been passed down in a 
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>>It is the key mantra (also referred to as a "beej mantra" though in 
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>>different sense than beej aksharas) that is used to enliven other 
>>mantras.  They are very powerful and given only to disciples.  The 
>>initiation of becoming a disciple (shishya) is the passage of the 
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>guru 
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>>mantra.  And in my tradition we will make anyone a disciple who is 
>>sincere and genuine in their desire.
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>>Many published mantras are "tribal mantras" and included in books 
>>because they are public and the author, if a disciple, can't reveal 
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>>mantras his guru gave him.
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>>Llundrub wrote:
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>>>I have never had a guru.
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>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: Bhairitu 
>>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>>>Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:42 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
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>>>Llundrub wrote:
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>>>>Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
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>>>>on 6/20/05 10:05 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>>>Yes, just OM! 
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>>>>So I wonder whether meditating on OM by itself might make one a 
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>recluse while meditating with a longer mantra that contains OM might 
>not, as my friend suggested in the comment I posted here yesterday. 
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>>>>I have a basic problem with these generalizations based on 
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>heresay.  
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>>>>For the basic reason that when I used to do TM at MIU I wanted to 
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>be a recluse and escape from all the cares of the world, and that was 
>using my non-OM mantra. So I can only imagine if what Maharishi says 
>about OM is true that I would have probably wanted to run screaming 
>from samsara. Moreover, my desires had no support at MIU and I was 
>miserable.   
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>>>>So I ask, what is the real difference?  
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>>>>My experience, which I consider to be the only important thing in 
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>the world, confirms for me that the mantras which I have used since 
>TM, most of which contain OM as a part are extremely effective in 
>very vaulable ways, and they have only bettered my life.  
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>>>>When I used to do Mahalakshmi Sadhana I used two main mantras 
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>which together are:
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>>>>Om shrim klim mahalakshmiyei namaha Om shrim hrim shrim kamala 
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>kamalalayei praseed praseed shrim hrim shrim om mahalakshmiyei 
>namaha.  Many Oms, I had much benefit from doing this 250,000 times. 
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>>>If you have a "guru mantra" then the amount of repetitions 
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>>>attain mantra siddhi are significantly reduced.  It's also 
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>interesting 
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>>>to note that the "secret" mantras are often much shorter. :)
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