Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

[Llundrub]

Not having a guru doesn't mean I haven't met gurus. Besides I'm a Buddhist.  I know all abou tthe kilakam, and I have a penchant for understanding mantras without needing to rely upon anyone for the inside scoop. For instance, I got the kilakam for the 19 syllable Shri Vidya mantra from the air as it were. Trust me Bub, I have heard it all. But you're right as well, I do not use the guru mantra, except for the Vajra Guru mantra, and I do use the longest mantra in the universe. It's called the secret mantra. Have you heard it?     ----- Original Message ----- From: Bhairitu To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques Exactly and that is why you are using long mantras.  ;-) The guru mantra is a mantra that has been passed down in a tradition.  It is the key mantra (also referred to as a "beej mantra" though in a different sense than beej aksharas) that is used to enliven other mantras.  They are very powerful and given only to disciples.  The initiation of becoming a disciple (shishya) is the passage of the guru mantra.  And in my tradition we will make anyone a disciple who is sincere and genuine in their desire. Many published mantras are "tribal mantras" and included in books because they are public and the author, if a disciple, can't reveal the mantras his guru gave him. Llundrub wrote: >I have never had a guru. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bhairitu >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:42 AM >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques > > >Llundrub wrote: > >  > >>Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques >> >> >>on 6/20/05 10:05 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >> Yes, just OM! >> >> >>So I wonder whether meditating on OM by itself might make one a recluse while meditating with a longer mantra that contains OM might not, as my friend suggested in the comment I posted here yesterday. >> >>I have a basic problem with these generalizations based on heresay.  >> >>For the basic reason that when I used to do TM at MIU I wanted to be a recluse and escape from all the cares of the world, and that was using my non-OM mantra. So I can only imagine if what Maharishi says about OM is true that I would have probably wanted to run screaming from samsara. Moreover, my desires had no support at MIU and I was miserable.   >> >>So I ask, what is the real difference?  >> >>My experience, which I consider to be the only important thing in the world, confirms for me that the mantras which I have used since TM, most of which contain OM as a part are extremely effective in very vaulable ways, and they have only bettered my life.  >> >>When I used to do Mahalakshmi Sadhana I used two main mantras which together are: >>Om shrim klim mahalakshmiyei namaha Om shrim hrim shrim kamala kamalalayei praseed praseed shrim hrim shrim om mahalakshmiyei namaha.  Many Oms, I had much benefit from doing this 250,000 times. >> >> >> >>    >> ><snip> >If you have a "guru mantra" then the amount of repetitions required to >attain mantra siddhi are significantly reduced.  It's also interesting >to note that the "secret" mantras are often much shorter. :) > >  > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.