http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/12/bush_bad_science/
I was referring to this. A president who does not understand how science works or even general principles of epistemology work causes other problems. His understanding about what would constitute good evidence of the situation in pre-war Iraq for example. Neither Bush nor Palin demonstrate clear thinking skills, they go with their gut. Palin does not need to know the causes of global warming before she goes in to fix the problem. Do you understand the implications of this style of thinking? > Be that as it may, Curtis, you should be aware that George Bush leads> the world in supporting and providing funds for both AIDS research> and providing monies to the Third World to combat AIDS. And he has > far surpassed Clinton in doing it and that's why people like Sonny > Bono praise him for this. Sonny rose from the grave? His plan has many good and some bad points. In a country where rape is the biggest problem with the spread of AIDs his giving a third of the money for prevention towards abstinence education seems out of touch. Bush has done lots of good things Shemp. For me the bad things out weigh the good. YMMV. But I don't want another 4 years of anti intellectual bias in the White House. I don't believe that Joe Six Pack is able to handle the problems our world faces right now. I am looking for someone more...how shall I say it...elite. Yeah, that's it. I want a person in the White House who is much smarter than I am. And that doesn't raise the bar that high but it does clear the Prom Up-Do'd head of Sarah Palin. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <shempmcgurk@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sarah Palin believing that dinosaurs roamed the earth with > humans > > > > 4,000 years ago (or whatever it is that she allegedly believes > that > > > > everyone is up in arms about)... > > > > > > > > ...or... > > > > > > > > Believing that Jesus dying and being tortured on a wooden > > > > cross will wash away all your sins -- past, present, and > > > > future? > > > > > > > > I find the latter "claim" much more absurd, frightening, > > > > and indicative of mental illness than the former. > > > > > > > > And yet Barack Obama -- who, being a Christian, as he'll > > > > readily admit -- must necessarily subscribe to the latter. > > > > Judy already nailed this but that wont stop me. > > > > The confusion you are expressing about different areas of knowledge > > Shemp, is precisely why George Bush and God forbid Sarah Palin in > the > > White House causes so much trouble for the advancement of scientific > > understanding of our lives. Thinking that the theory of evolution > and > > mythology from an "old book" are on an epistemological par causes > > people in power to disregard the principles of science that help it > > transcend our tendency for intellectual delusions. Bush politicized > > science. It has hurt our country and mankind's growth of knowledge. > > > > > > The only possible thing you can be referring to here, Curtis, is the > Bush policy on stem-cell research, 'cause that's pretty much the only > thing Bush has put the Kabosh on in the area of science. > > And all that policy says is that the federal government won't give > research money to any firm that engages in this practise. > > But that doesn't stop you, me, or anyone else from today opening up a > research lab and doing any and all experiments on stem-cells...we > just won't get money from the federal government. Indeed, if we're > in CAlifornia and do that, Arnold and company will instead give us > billions. > > So how is that hurting our country and mankind's growth of > knowledge? Go ahead and work on stem-cell research; nothing is > stopping you. > > Or perhaps I am wrong in assuming that stem-cell policy is what you > are referring to. > > Perhaps it is something else. > > Like AIDS research? AIDS funding for the Third World? > > Well, I assume that that must be what you mean because you make > reference to "hurting the world and mankind's growth of knowledge" > and since AIDS is the world's leading scientific "problem" after the > imagined global warming crisis, this is a good candidate for what you > are referring to. > > Be that as it may, Curtis, you should be aware that George Bush leads > the world in supporting and providing funds for both AIDS research > and providing monies to the Third World to combat AIDS. And he has > far surpassed Clinton in doing it and that's why people like Sonny > Bono praise him for this. > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't care less what wacky shit my president believes about > what > > happens after he dies. I am at peace with the idea that people much > > more brilliant than I am may believe things that I consider > fantasy. > > > > But if they can't articulate why it is wrong to teach creationism > > alongside evolution in science class, and not say as George Bush has > > that he wants all the points of view to be taught so people can make > > up their own minds, then they have no place governing our country at > > this critical time. > > > > Palin furthered our understanding about how her scientific mind > works > > by twice asserting that she wasn't interested in discussing the > causes > > of global warming, just git'n in thar an fix'n it all up. > > > > > > Palin's Joe Six Pack goes to the doctor: > > "Dr. give me a whole bunch of pills cuz I've got a disease but I > don't > > want to get into a discussion of what is causing it." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The difference is that there's very strong evidence > > > *against* the former--meaning that someone who believes > > > in the dinosaur theory has little respect for science-- > > > but none at all either for OR against the latter. > > > > > > Plus which, having your sins forgiven makes a > > > difference only after you die. > > > > > > To my mind, if one believes in an afterlife that may > > > be either heavenly or hellish, depending on whether > > > one's sins have been forgiven, it's psychologically > > > a lot healthier during one's life on earth to believe > > > one is going to go to heaven when one dies than to > > > fear that one is going to hell. > > > > > > There are different opinions within Christianity as > > > to whether one can "lose" one's salvation. The "once > > > saved, always saved" belief is more characteristic of > > > fundamentalism; that's probably what Palin believes, > > > but I suspect Obama doesn't. > > > > > > And, hell, for > > > > all we know he subscribes to the dinosaur theory as well! > > > > > > More likely, Palin believes *both* that she cannot > > > lose her salvation *and* that dinosaurs and humans > > > were contemporaneous, whereas Obama believes neither. > > > > > >
