--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> (snip)
> 
> > > > What are your views on karma:
> 
> 
> You asked for my views so I gave them to you. My first response to 
> your original post was hasty and flip but sometimes there is little 
> time and these things get dashed off in a hurry. 
> 
> 
> > > > 
> > > > Do you hold that karma does not exist? If so, do you have an
> > > > alternative model of action?
> >  
> >  
> > > I have always understood karma to mean literally "action". In my 
> > > view every action requires a desire and an intent of some sort, 
> and 
> > > although some actions may seem inconsequential in their impact, 
> even 
> > > a small action carries a small puff of desire and intent with it.
> > 
> > 
> > So a karmic disease or accident or financial loss is desired?
> 
> No, but whatever happens in life is our destiny created by our karma.
> 
> 
>    
> > > > Do you think a liberated one has absolutely no karma returning 
> to 
> > > them in this life / body?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Not only that but I do not think that liberated ones even exist 
> on 
> > > earth unless they are an avatar.
> > 
> > 
> > So there are no realized liberated ones walking the earth?
> 
> 
> I would call that an avatar.
> 
> > 
> >   
> > >  
> > > > When people talk of their experiences of "no-doer", what is 
> the 
> > > role
> > > > of karma in that state? 
> 
> When people talk of their experiences of "no-doer" I do not think 
> that they are liberated.
> 
> > 
> > Sorry I don't follow, your theory appears not based on any source
> > other than speculation and your reasoning appears jumbled to me.
> 
> That's fine if you do not follow what I am saying, we don't know 
> each other and our glossary is probably totally out of synch. It 
> doesn't matter, I wrote my sincere views on karma and I stand by 
> them. It appears that you are the one who jumbled my reasoning 
> through misinterpretation and as far as speculation is concerned; 
> it's all speculation. Everything on the linked website, what you 
> wrote and what I wrote, it's all speculation. Sometimes you just 
> have to say what you feel and forget the sources, after all the 
> sources are just other people saying what they feel.
> 
> Rick Carlstrom

Well good luck with that, with your profound views. May they serve you
well. 






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