--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > (snip) > > > > > What are your views on karma: > > > You asked for my views so I gave them to you. My first response to > your original post was hasty and flip but sometimes there is little > time and these things get dashed off in a hurry. > > > > > > > > > > Do you hold that karma does not exist? If so, do you have an > > > > alternative model of action? > > > > > > > I have always understood karma to mean literally "action". In my > > > view every action requires a desire and an intent of some sort, > and > > > although some actions may seem inconsequential in their impact, > even > > > a small action carries a small puff of desire and intent with it. > > > > > > So a karmic disease or accident or financial loss is desired? > > No, but whatever happens in life is our destiny created by our karma. <snip>
I was looking over what the 'MMY' Gita has to say on this, and came across Chapter 4, v.17, which speaks about action, and specifically defines wrong actions as those that: 1. harm the doer in the present or the future 2. do not succeed 3. hinder evolution 4. bind the doer to the cycle of birth and death 5. produce life-damaging influences upon the surroundings and upon others 6. are against the laws of nature This exposition is presented in an interesting context, in that Maharishi continues to comment that such wrong action is only possible as long as the doer is: 1. in a state of ignorance about his own dharma 2. unaware of the essential nature of his own self 3. unaware of the nature of activity and the nature of God 4. not supported by transcendental pure consciousness in his waking state of consciousness He continues in the following verse to state that: 'A man for whom the level of transcendental consciousness has become the level of the conscious mind appreciates the thought at its very start before it actually develops into a desire. His thought becomes transformed into action without expressing itself as a desire.' And: 'The question may then be asked: What is responsible for initiating action in such a man? The answer is the almighty power of Nature, which is the cause of the vast and incessant activity of creation and evolution throught the cosmos.' So I conclude three things from this: 1. personally it is helpful to continue to meditate, to increase synchronicity with Being; identification with Nature. 2. to undertake what is perceived as right action. 3. a discussion of karma regarding the enlightened is pretty meaningless with regard to the enlightened, and only useful for the ignorant as a spur to continue #1 and #2, insofar as actions are driven by desire. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
