--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > . > > > > Tat Wale Baba - a friend of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - has said: > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > Tat Wale Baba: > > That which is omnipresent doesn't have to be sought. It's there already. > Start to be. That which is omnipresent is not to be sought; only our > awareness has to be brought to that level and that bliss is there. You > don't have to seek it. Understand? Unless we get into that omnipresent > bliss, satisfaction is not going to come. If it were to come, it would > have come by now through so many avenues in the world. But, it has not. > Therefore, that which is the Self is your own being. You don't have to > look in the outside. And, it is irrespective of any religious faiths or > beliefs; Christians or Mormons or Hindus. That being is the knowledge > itself. Only, you have to know. All these various manifestations of > happiness that we experience in the world, they also are the > manifestations of the same eternal being which is our own Self. If we > are aware of the Self, if we know it, fine. Otherwise, we have to be. > And, therefore, it is necessary to bring our awareness deep within > ourselves. As deeply as we can bring our awareness to the Self, so > intensely we can inherit that which is omnipresent in our day to day > life. Having known that Self we will be eternally contented; remaining > in the world we will live contentment. And, it's not a matter of > detaching ourselves from the world. Only, we have to know It, and having > known It, then, all different manifestations in the world will be > experienced as manifestations of That. We don't have to detach > ourselves. It is just a matter of bringing the awareness to that area, > and be, and live It. > > Having gained this beautiful, perfect human nervous system, if we have > known that element of the Self, then we have really used this wonderful > diamond-like gift, this diamond-like nervous system which is capable of > giving that eternal bliss. If it is not experienced, then we have wasted > that gift of diamond. We have taken upon ourselves this human nervous > system, not for the sake of petty enjoyment of changing nature in this > relative field of change, but to live and be that infinite bliss. And, > we will have to attain that thing whether we attain it in this life, or > in the next, or in the next. We just can't forego that. Therefore, with > the assistance of the guru and the scriptures, better to attain it > quickly. Why postpone? > > > Tat Wale Baba's talk was followed by an opportunity for questions to be > asked. As each question was asked in English Maharishi Mahesh Yogi > translated to Hindi, then translated Tat Wale Baba's replies. > > > Student: Can he tell us of his master and the tradition he follows? > > TWB: The Self is free from any tradition or nontradition. > > MMY (adding his own comment): He is from the tradition of Shukadev. > Shukadev was like him, not of this world. Away from it. > > Student: Can he tell us what kind of meditation he does? > > TWB: I am established in Vedanta and that way we talk about it, and we > be. There is no practice as such. > > Student: What do you think about Transcendental Meditation? > > TWB: Transcendental Consciousness is the basis of all experience. Pure > Consciousness is That through which we experience. That is not a thing > which one can experience. And, all this world is in a state of Pure > Consciousness, and it is through That that we experience everything. > Pure Consciousness, or Transcendental Consciousness is nothing that we > experience. Through That we are experiencing everything. That is the > basis of all experience, and experiencing. So enjoy that state. > > Student: Is it possible to increase one's capacity to enjoy that state? > > TWB: We can increase it to any great extent through meditation. And as > we go deeper, That will shine forth in our life outside. So, it's > possible to increase our ability to be That. And, that is through > meditation. > > Student: Does he have any techniques that he teaches his disciples? > > TWB: We are sitting in the forest, and when we are sitting in the forest > we have some purpose to perform, and with that we are sitting. If some > seeker comes and asks, fine. We give advice. Otherwise, we don't have > much time. We are in the forest, and we are in the forest for some > purpose. But, if some seeker comes, fine. His doubts are cleared and > removed. > > Student: Does he think that his way of life helps the rest of mankind or > only him? > > TWB: All these saints meditating and established in the Self, they are > the basis for all this running of the entire universe, and they are the > basis of the whole thing, and not for themselves alone. Their good > vibrations are influencing societies for their advancement. > > Student: Like a powerhouse? > > TWB: Like a powerhouse. The powerhouse is in Delhi and the bulb is > shining here. It is not the bulb that is shining. It's the power from > the powerhouse. It is the saints established in their Self who are > infusing life into the whole universe. And, it is they who have found > Smriti Purananam (Vedic codes of behavior). It is they who have found > the essentials, the realities of life, and have taught to the world > various conducts of living; ways of realization of the Self, ways of > realization of God, and all these higher states of life. It is they who > have brought wisdom home to the world, and they are at the basis of all > the increasing prosperity of the world through their vibrations and > through their attainment. > > Student: How much sleep does he require? > > TWB: If I sleep what will happen to the world? Asleep and awake - the > sleep and awake is the nature of the mind. Sometimes the mind sleeps, > sometimes it is awake. If I sleep, the whole basis of the world would be > sleeping and then there will be left nothing. So, I don't sleep. If > someone sleeps it is the mind. The Self doesn't sleep. All these states > of waking, dreaming; they belong to the mind. They are not the state of > the Self. And, if you speak of my sleeping, I don't sleep because the > Self doesn't sleep. If the Self sleeps then the whole world would go > into sleep. > > Student: Is there any difference between the time that he is meditating > and the time when he is not meditating, in how he feels, or his > interaction with the environment? > > TWB: Meditating for some time, one gets established permanently in the > state of being. And then, wherever the mind goes one is established in > that Self no matter what one does here or there; it doesn't matter when > one is established in the Self. And, that state comes after some time > from going deep inside and coming out. With this practice one gets > established permanently in the Self, and then whatever you do you are > not separate from the Self. > > Students: Are you living in that state now? > > TWB: That which is unborn, eternal, we can't talk about it in terms of > time. In terms of time the Self can't be talked. > > Student: Does he feel that there is more to attain? > > TWB: What is there to be gained or attained? That which is to be gained > is omnipresent, and we are That, and it's already attained. As long as > the mind has been wavering only in the changing relative, so long it was > out of sight. And, when the mind has been concentrated and has attained > to that level, nothing new has happened. The thing that was there, it is > there. Nothing new has happened or has been attained. Nothing! That > which was there is there even now, and was even before. Only the > difference is in the mind; the mind was unaware of That and now the mind > is aware. So, what is there to talk about attainment of further states? > > Student: Can he tell us of the love that flows from one's heart once the > state is attained? > > TWB: One's love overflows. As one loves himself so does he begin to love > others. Because in that state there is none other than one's Self. > Therefore, one's love for one's Self is one's love for others. And then, > whatever communications are there, they are communications in one's own > Self. > > The Self is golden. It is only a matter of taking our awareness to That > and then the criterion for That will be that we will begin to display > all love and harmony in the field of all our action and experience. That > will be the criterion. When the love increases, that becomes the balance > to measure that we are nearing That. Otherwise, the thing is already > there, only we have to incorporate it in our lives. We have to exhibit > more of love, more of happiness. Expression of That is necessary, > otherwise the state of That is already there. And, we will begin to > express more of it when we become more aware of it. > > Student: Can we meditate with you? > > Tat Wale Baba closed his eyes and we all meditated for about twenty > minutes. Then, the opportunity to ask more questions resumed. > > Student: What do you see for the future of the world? > > TWB: We have to create future. Future does not have to create us. And, > if we do good things and meditate and experience that Self and be > omnipresent, future is going to be good. If we do not, we are going to > create a bad future. We have to create the future. The future is in our > hands. > > Student: Will there be world peace? > > TWB: The world is within you. And, if you are at peace within, if your > awareness is established in your Self your world is in peace. And, if > you are wavering and peaceless and you are not in tune with your own > eternal state of Being then the world is in peacelessness. If you want > to create peace on the cosmic level then you must take refuge in God. > And, if you want peace within yourself, realize the Self and your world > will be in peace and you will see that the whole world is in peace. The > world is as you are, and the world will be as you will be. > > Student: Are there any shortcuts to purification of karma? > > TWB: The shortest cut to the purification of karma is surrender to God, > devotion to God, realization of the Self. And, when you realize the Self > all your mind and senses will be purified. And, when your senses are > purified all your actions will be good. They will be life supporting. > They behave with you as your friends. And, if the mind is not > established in the Self, in the glory of God, then your own senses will > become your enemy. And then, all your karma will pounce upon you as your > enemy. It is the fixity of the mind in the Self that makes your senses > your friend, and non-fixity of the mind in the Self makes your senses > your enemy. Senses-enemy means karma, because the karma is performed by > the senses. So the karma will be good if the mind is established in the > Self and karma will not be good if the mind is not established in the Self. > > Practice. Increase your practice to arrive at that goal. > > Student: Is it a liability to be a householder and do this practice? > > TWB: Householder's way of life is not bad. But, not being able to live > up to the standards of this life-style we make a hell out of ourselves > in a householder's way of life. > > Student: Is it possible to work in the world when we have gained the > highest state of pure supreme knowledge? > > TWB: There are two ways of life, householder and recluse. Those who are > in the householder's way of life, they by habit are engaged in activity, > even having gained that state of supreme knowledge. And, those who are > recluse by nature, they don't have anything to do with the activity of > life. So, they continue to live that way. But, both live that state of > supreme knowledge. > > Student: Is it possible that one who lives a householder's way of life > can then desire to switch and live the life of a recluse? Or, would this > cause a conflict? > > TWB: The ideal condition would be not to enter into the household. If > you want to become a sanyasi (renunciate), or, if you have entered the > householder's life, then share the responsibility that you have taken > with the wife and children, and then complete that responsibility. Get > your children educated and be done with the whole thing. Then, it would > be good to waver off from there. Otherwise, don't enter it, and that > will be the more ideal. Having taken the responsibility it won't be good > to shut that responsibility.
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