--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> > sure. enlightenment is something we either buy into, or we don't. it 
> > is a state of being we aspire to, or not. those that feel a need to 
> > pursue it, to live the state of a free and integrated soul, do so 
> > because of some fundamental lack in their lives. why that is and 
> > where it comes from can be endlessly speculated about. the bottom 
> > line is that like anything else, we are either interested in 
> > attaining such a state for its perceived benefits, or not. a very 
> > personal and profound decision.
> > 
> > to your statements attaempting to link behavior or accomplishments 
> > in our relative existence to enlightenment- to my way of thinking it 
> > is impossible. the list would be an infinite one and therefore 
> > meaningless.
> 
> Actually I was referring to Maharishi's explicit linking of these
> qualities.  He was very fond of making such lists and we spent a lot
> of time around him doing just that.  It was his claim that the state
> of enlightenment leads to miraculous abilities in relative life.  I
> believe that many people in the movement today are conveniently
> leaving these verification out because the states of mind they have
> achieved are just pleasant internal states and not a state that we
> could call a higher state of functioning with special abilities.  Most
> the the other qualities I hear are poetic descriptions of beliefs.
> 

WEll, teh full-blown state of CC would be where someone sits down
to do TM, appears to stop breathing for 20 mnutes non-stop, and then
gets up apparenlty unchanged.

I don't know that any of the people measured by the TMO show such 
a thing...


Lawson



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