--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > sure. enlightenment is something we either buy into, or we don't. it > > is a state of being we aspire to, or not. those that feel a need to > > pursue it, to live the state of a free and integrated soul, do so > > because of some fundamental lack in their lives. why that is and > > where it comes from can be endlessly speculated about. the bottom > > line is that like anything else, we are either interested in > > attaining such a state for its perceived benefits, or not. a very > > personal and profound decision. > > > > to your statements attaempting to link behavior or accomplishments > > in our relative existence to enlightenment- to my way of thinking it > > is impossible. the list would be an infinite one and therefore > > meaningless. > > Actually I was referring to Maharishi's explicit linking of these > qualities. He was very fond of making such lists and we spent a lot > of time around him doing just that. It was his claim that the state > of enlightenment leads to miraculous abilities in relative life. I > believe that many people in the movement today are conveniently > leaving these verification out because the states of mind they have > achieved are just pleasant internal states and not a state that we > could call a higher state of functioning with special abilities. Most > the the other qualities I hear are poetic descriptions of beliefs. >
WEll, teh full-blown state of CC would be where someone sits down to do TM, appears to stop breathing for 20 mnutes non-stop, and then gets up apparenlty unchanged. I don't know that any of the people measured by the TMO show such a thing... Lawson