--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Beth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No they are not they are simply Christians who like to parade around as Jews in order to convert real Jews. Beth Bridges (new here)
Welcome Beth. I guess that may be true about some of them, but not all right? Some are Jews who converted. I'm not sure which part you are responding to. What is a "real Jew"? Hasidic Jews are the only "real" Jews, right? > > --- On Mon, 11/3/08, curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is a Jew for Jesus still Jewish? > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 2:51 PM > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@ ...> > wrote: > > > > Of course, he is. > > You are mixing up logical levels here. Religiously they are > Christian, and culturally they are Jewish. > > > Islam, as it was pointed out in a post here (by raunchydog?) , is > > defined patrilinearly. > > By Muslims. Not by people with a father who happened to be born in > that part of the world who now chooses to be Christian. Saying that a > person can be a religion against their own will is absurd. > > > > > And, like Judaism, you don't have to have much, if any, belief in > > Islam and its tenets. You just have to have been born to an Islamic > > father who could even be an atheist (as Barack's father apparently > > was). > > So it is a magical connection that has nothing to do with a person's > choice? And we should take this one belief of Muslims seriously > because... > > > I don't trust people who try to hide things about themselves.> > > Hiding his magical connection that would only be believed by people > who grew up as Muslim and bought into this belief. We should all > adapt this superstitious POV? > > Obama's religion is the pseudo-cannibalisti c Christian religion. But > thank God he's not a Muslim! They believe some weird stuff don't they? > > > > > And he/she would be the first to say it even though, spiritually, > > they subscribe to the New Testament and accept J.C. and their > > personal savior and all that bullshit. > > > > Same thing with atheist Jews. Many of the Jews I know don't believe > > in God, haven't been in a synagogue in years, don't observe the High > > Holidays, and feast on pork and lobster every chance they get. > > > > But in spite of not only not adhering to the tenets of Judaism -- and > > indeed, go out of their way to express their opposition to them -- > > they still consider themselves as Jews. > > > > And, according to Israel's law of return as well as the laws of > > Judaism regarding who is a Jew, the above-described Jews are Jews by > > virtue of their mothers being Jewish (the father could be Pope and > > the children would still not be any less Jewish). > > > > That's all it took; just the matri-linear connection. No need to > > believe in Judaism or adhere to its principles. > > > > Islam, as it was pointed out in a post here (by raunchydog?) , is > > defined patrilinearly. > > > > And, like Judaism, you don't have to have much, if any, belief in > > Islam and its tenets. You just have to have been born to an Islamic > > father who could even be an atheist (as Barack's father apparently > > was). > > > > So Barack is and always will be a Muslim. Of course, like a Jew for > > Jesus who are often referred to as "Messianic Jews", Barack is, we > > could say, a "Messianic Muslim" because he, too, has accepted the ole > > J-Meister as his personal free ticket to ever-lasting heaven. > > > > Why doesn't Barack identify himself as Muslim? Is he ashamed of it? > > > > Why not embrace your heritage instead of hiding from it? > > > > Why instruct your minions to strictly keep head-garb-wearing Muslim > > women AWAY from any backdrops in photo-ops so that the Muslim > > connection is hidden? > > > > I don't trust people who try to hide things about themselves. Being > > Muslim is NOT a reason not to vote for Obama. Don't vote for him or > > do vote for him based upon his stance on issues and his character. > > >
