Hey Shempster!: On Nov 3, 2008, at 3:28 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
Of course, he is.
Well, there is a difference between HaShem ("The Name") and The Name became Flesh.
You do realize the difference, doncha? And he/she would be the first to say it even though, spiritually,
they subscribe to the New Testament and accept J.C. and their personal savior and all that bullshit.
Well I happen to know some Blue Book people who are Jewish Christians, and it turns out THEY'RE SOME OF THE COOLEST PEOPLE I KNOW.
You know what? They're some of the people I consider the most Christian that I've met in terms of mainstream X-tian comparisons. There are still some cool X-tian sects Shemp, despite the bizarre mainstream.
Same thing with atheist Jews. Many of the Jews I know don't believe in God, haven't been in a synagogue in years, don't observe the High Holidays, and feast on pork and lobster every chance they get.
Hell yes. A young couple who often stay at my place when in New England, their family always held a pork barbecue in honor of the Jewish high holidays. I shit you not. They were wicked cool (as we say in northern New England) too. Those crazy scientists!
But in spite of not only not adhering to the tenets of Judaism -- and indeed, go out of their way to express their opposition to them -- they still consider themselves as Jews.
Oh yeah. And I dug their heresy along with them. (believe it or not, I've never worn a lightning rod!).
I remember one of my best friends from college, a descendant of the Tribe of Levi, literally crying on my shoulder as his family forced him to marry a Jewish girl he wasn't in love with.
And, according to Israel's law of return as well as the laws of Judaism regarding who is a Jew, the above-described Jews are Jews by virtue of their mothers being Jewish (the father could be Pope and the children would still not be any less Jewish).
Yeah, so?
That's all it took; just the matri-linear connection. No need to believe in Judaism or adhere to its principles.
Huh? Do you really have any Jewish or Islamic friends?
Islam, as it was pointed out in a post here (by raunchydog?), is defined patrilinearly.
Who really gives a f*ck?
And, like Judaism, you don't have to have much, if any, belief in Islam and its tenets. You just have to have been born to an Islamic father who could even be an atheist (as Barack's father apparently was).
OK, I think I see where you're going here.
So Barack is and always will be a Muslim. Of course, like a Jew for Jesus who are often referred to as "Messianic Jews", Barack is, we could say, a "Messianic Muslim" because he, too, has accepted the ole J-Meister as his personal free ticket to ever-lasting heaven.
Whoa. I believe this is what is commonly called, at best, a non sequitur. You have not shown a logical connection here. Do you need me to dig out my college logic textbook again? You and Judy make me do that a lot!
Why doesn't Barack identify himself as Muslim? Is he ashamed of it?
Because he was raised by the caucasoid Christian side of the family? Have you seen pictures of the Grandmother that just died? Have you seen the tears he wiped from his face?
Why doesn't McCain identify himself as a Mars worshipping Pagan? He never goes to x-tian church and worshipped primarily at the altar of the Church of the Military Industrial Complex like his grandpa and daddy.
Why not embrace your heritage instead of hiding from it?
LOL. Crossing the line to bigot, aren't you?
Why instruct your minions to strictly keep head-garb-wearing Muslim women AWAY from any backdrops in photo-ops so that the Muslim connection is hidden?
Because the well-known Right Wing Extremist Military Industrial Pharmaceutical Complex Conspiracy would have used it against him?
(my apologies to all the other industrial complexes I failed to mention) Hell, you sound like the OxyMoron, Rush Limbaugh!
I don't trust people who try to hide things about themselves.
Yeah I was really distraught about how McCain sold out the other Keating Five from recent news accounts. I mean, how LOW can you really get? (He was, of course, much younger then).
Who needs hell when you need to pretend to make love to someone who looks like they've had all the plastic surgery and skin peels that Cindy's had? That beer distributor karma sure ain't what it used to be, huh Shemp? Earlier Budweiser babes must've looked much better than that! (remember Spud McKenzie?....were you guys related?) That's the real reason an old "Low Gun" Johnny boy needed an Alaskan runner up beauty queen doncha know? You gotta keep it "up" somehow if your gonna be a male President!
Being Muslim is NOT a reason not to vote for Obama. Don't vote for him or do vote for him based upon his stance on issues and his character.
Bigot.
