--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 <no_re...@...> wrote: > > a master of anything, be it painting pictures, customizing cars or > doing TM takes at least 20 years. the thing that is so > unprofessional to see by those with waking state funny names is that > they haven't practiced TM for anything like 20 years. i have.
OMG that is SUCH a coincidence that the exact amount necessary happens to be what you have practiced it for! I'm gunna give you the credit for seeing through the obvious problems in such a statement and assume that you are dying to have someone challenge and discuss it. So I'll bite. > > this reduces their remarks to nothing more than uninformed opinion > and bias. OUCH! Even guys who (theoretically of course) spent 4 out of their 15 meditating years rounding on some of Maharishi's most intense courses? (pre-Purusha sidhaland just for a random example) Even a guy like that would have an uninformed opinion? Didn't TTC with all those pujas do anything for us? And can't we (I mean some random theoretical person) also factor in how many people they taught? Maharishi sure did. And what about face time with the holy roller himself, can't we at least get some cosmic extra credit for that? This seemed to be a big deal for Maharishi as he tells his story, I mean the guy didn't even really meditate much at all for all we know. He was attuning his mind like we were with all those all nighters chasing his latest schemes or making Vedic "whatever" charts while fulfilling his DESIRES? That counts too right? And how about Ayur Veda? What if you had herbs pumped into your..uh..well..uh...mmm...you know...they hit ya where the good Lord split ya? That had better count because that was soooooo gay. What if you had the corpulent Triguna test your pulse and sell you a bunch of nasty powders to balance your doshas? I'm gunna be pissed if swallowing what tasted like the ground up cast off shoes from the Delhi Tigers Cricket team didn't get me anywhere. Really pissed! I guess there must be something very very interesting about those last 5 years, care to elaborate? Did you factor in rounding? (not that I have a personal stake in that)? If I was to make some kind of criteria for giving the Maharishi deal a chance it would be more along the lines of having experiences of the states of mind he talked about. I mean for all we know it is only the short bus kids who require 20 years. (nothing personal) The rest of us (I mean theoretical people) might have only needed 5 years of practice to basically verify Maharishi's predictions about how meditation changes you enough to vote yea or nay. (or is that "neigh" or is that what horses do? Damn editor Judy has posted out this week.) I'll bet none of this is a real surprise to you, but what say ye? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > > > > And if THAT doesn't raise warning bells with you, nothing > will. > > > That last phrase > > > > makes the TM researchers sound like total skeptics. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lawson > > > > > > > yeah, similar to this new major meditation research center, > there > > > are these blind guys i know, trying to determine the shape of an > > > elephant. > > > > > > > Do you and Lawson know anything about this new funding for a > research > > center? Or are you making assumptions based on what Vaj said? > > > > Dawn, on what do you base your assertion that 20 years of > meditating > > experience is more or less required to draw conclusions on TM's > > effects? How many years have you been meditating? > > > > Lawson, I do not believe that there is TM research on their > concept of > > unstressing. Are you aware of any? > > >
