Great exposition, Vaj; a total keeper, really concise, nicely
articulated.  

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 17, 2008, at 7:01 PM, The Secret wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> >
> >> Actually the science appears solid and is getting published in
> >> respectable journals. Insurance companies are paying for people with
> >> chronic depression to learn meditation and a form of cognitive
> >> therapy--and it's working.
> >>
> >> Of course your other option is to resign yourself to the fact that
> >> after about 24, you're pretty much written in stone...your choice
> >> really. :-)
> >>
> >> One quick example I just found on the web:
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf6Q0G1iHBI
> >>
> >
> > Vaj, this video is almost an hour.  I'm a TM/TM sidha.  I don't have a
> > long enough attention span to watch this.  Tell me the bottom line.
> > Am I practicing mindless meditation?
> 
> 
> No you're not per se. TM is a form of Shamatha meditation or Samadhi  
> (concentration) meditation where the idea is that the mind will  
> "spontaneously" concentrate (rather than via deliberate, balanced,  
> intention) based on the principle of "increasing charm" and the idea  
> of naturally desiring bliss: you want it, you gotta have it, your  
> attention will go there, it's good, it's easy.
> 
> TM does share some elements with mindfulness-style meditation, e.g.  
> "monitoring" as in 'waiting for the mantra to "come"'. That's a form  
> of mindfulness, as is the process of learning to 'come back to the  
> mantra'. If you're NOT "mindful", you forget to come back to the  
> mantra and remain stuck in discursive "think". So you learn to be  
> mindful in order to learn the automatic habit of instinctively and  
> easily regaining the mantra-groove (and thus being charmed again  
> towards introspective no-think).
> 
> The big difference is that in order to transcend, you withdraw. By  
> withdrawing, you cut yourself in half: you separate by inner  
> introspection from 'open presence' of the outer and inner world.
> 
> Ultimately in mindfulness, you don't withdraw, but instead remain  
> open. There's no need to retract attention like a groundhog it's hole.  
> (Please excuse the example. It's traditional).
>


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