--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> >
> > It underlines the point that enlightenment gives you wisdom.  
> > The story I was referring to was when Trotaka revealed his 
> > enlightenment to the others. Shankara was insisting that they 
> > all wait for him [Trotaka] and the others snickered that he 
> > didn't understand it anyway. He came in singing his "cognized" 
> ? Trotaka stakham sp? verses revealing his complete knowledge. 
> 
> Which, coincidentally, just happened to be 
> a sappy love song to his teacher, expressing
> his total devotion to him. THAT is what Maha-
> rishi was trying to put forth as the primary
> criterion of enlightenment.
 
> > I memorized them on my TTC, it is a beautiful song. This is 
> > from a TTC tape on him.  His wisdom came from his enlightenment 
> > and he put all the smartypants guys to shame.  
> 
> And his enlightenment came from being slavishly
> devoted to his "master" and willing to do any-
> thing that this "master" said, without a moment's
> hesitation. 
> 
> Notice the trend here?
> 
> > His verses were so perfect that it blew them away with his 
> > mental ability gained not through pulling all-nighters, but 
> > by his devotion and enlightenment.  
> 
> And the "lesson" being clearly taught here was
> that the latter (enlightenment) came from the
> former (devotion). Trotaka didn't have to "crack
> the books" to get smart, all he had to do was
> do whatever he was told to do by his "master."
> 
> I'm just reiterating the point I made earlier,
> that Maharishi was trying to cultivate that
> sense of devotion to one's "master" that *he*
> considered "the highest" in his students by
> telling emotional "feel good" stories. This
> story is NOT about Trotaka's intellect; the
> intellect is presented as *secondary*, some-
> thing that happened *as the result* of total,
> unthinking bhakti. 

Nailed and nailed!



In fact, the development
> of the intellect in the other students is 
> what is being presented as "secondary." They 
> are being presented not as happening as Trotaka 
> because they were not as "sold out" to their 
> "master" as he was.
> 
> I'm not saying that this theory of enlighten-
> ment through devotion is unique, nor am I sug-
> gesting that it's not valid for some people,
> who are "made that way." What I am suggesting
> is that Maharishi, by telling this story over
> and over and over, was trying to establish it
> as *the* path for people who might NOT be
> "made that way." In my estimation he clearly
> saw total, unthinking devotion to one's
> "master" AS the "highest path," because *he*
> was "made that way," and he wanted to remake
> all of his students over to be like him. 
> 
> I am gracious enough to believe that in the
> beginning he did this because he really thought
> that *his* path -- the only one he was capable
> of because *he* was not a great intellect or 
> drawn to any of the other many viable paths to
> enlightenment -- was the best path to teach 
> others, "for their own good." But at the same 
> time, I think it is important to remember that 
> the "master" that Maharishi was teaching his 
> students the value of being slavishly devoted 
> to was HIM.
> 
> I believe that on one level Maharishi may have
> been trying to convince his students that bhakti
> and slavish devotion were good things because
> in his opinion they could lead to enlightenment.
> But on another, I equally believe that he was
> trying to establish that same unthinking devotion
> towards HIM in his students that he was talking 
> about in Trotaka. 
> 
> Forty years later, the unthinking devotion is 
> all that remains, with nary an example of it 
> having led to enlightenment in sight. (Or at 
> least not as recognized by Maharishi or the 
> organization he founded.)
>


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