Curtis, Under no circumstances are you to take a banana from ED11.
"Not that there's anything wrong with that!" - Jerry Seinfeld Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 <no_re...@...> wrote: > > you are trying so hard today, curt, and your reward is due-- enjoy a > banana! > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > your definitions all sound so monkey-like. here's a banana, my > > > little chiquita. > > > > > > enlightenment is that state of consciousness in which a person > no > > > longer identifies with, and gets lost in, the objects of > perception. > > > > > You know this sounds like a made-up problem to solve. I never met > > anyone who was lost in or identified with the objects of > perception. > > Someone would have an unimaginable pathological lack of self > awareness > > for this to be a problem. > > > > I mean this seriously because it is one of the fundamental > > presuppositions of Maharishi's teaching. Can anyone here remember > > when this was a problem in your life before TM? I honestly can't. > > > > > > this can't be accomplished on the thinking level. it is not about > > > > thinking, imagining, believing, denying, or hallucinating. > > > > > > the most effective way to establish that state is by alternating > the > > > practice of transcending with activity. the easiest way to do > this > > > is through the regular (2x a day) practice of Transcendental > > > Maditation, or TM. > > > > I have heard this exact phrase somewhere before but I just can't > place > > it... > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > > > <no_reply@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, I would like to hear each person's definition > in one > > > > > > or two sentences please. > > > > > > > > > > > > (we already know Vaj is going to inscrutably say " " > > > > > > And Sal is going to say "A good BLT sandwich" > > > > > > > > > > > > ...but what is the definition from the rest of you? > > > > > > > > > > Enlightenment -- a fluid, everchanging subjective > > > > > state of mind that has no qualities or attributes > > > > > except what the claimant of having attained it > > > > > claims it has, and no benefits for the claimant > > > > > or society other than what the claimant says it > > > > > has. The only important thing is that other people > > > > > must view the person who has claimed enlightenment > > > > > as somehow special and better than they are. See > > > > > 'unicorn,' and 'UFO sightings.' All in all, a BLT > > > > > is more nourishing and better for you, and cheaper. > > > > > > > > > > -- The Dictionary of Cutting Through The Bullshit, > > > > > Get Real Press, 33rd. edition. > > > > > > > > > > > > MORE DEFINITIONS OF ENLIGHTENMENT > > > > > > > > The Maharishi Mahesh Yogi definition > > > > "Enlightenment is exactly as I described it over > > > > the years, and it's the same for everyone. It's > > > > a steady progression through the states of CC, > > > > GC, UC and BC to complete fulfillment. When one > > > > reaches that state of full enlightenment, one is > > > > able to manifest all of the siddhis and levitate, > > > > as I do, and bring all of one's ideas to perfect > > > > completion, as I did with Vedaland and so many > > > > other projects. That'll be a million dollars, please." > > > > > > > > The Dumb Blonde definition > > > > "Enlightenment is what I say it is. Anyone who > > > > says anything different is WRONG, and is just a > > > > monkey-mind chattering away. And I know this to > > > > be true because my TM initiator, What's-his-name, > > > > said so back when I first learned TM, back in > > > > Wherever-it-was-ville." > > > > > > > > The Vaj definition > > > > "Enlightenment is what the people I consider > > > > enlightened say it is. And it is ONLY what the > > > > people I consider enlightened say it is. So there." :-) > > > > > > > > The TMO definition > > > > "Enlightenment is the inevitable result of practicing > > > > the TM technique, which is the fastest, easiest, most > > > > effective means of attaining enlightenment ever > > > > seen on planet Earth. This can be verified by doing > > > > scientific tests on all the people we have certified as > > > > being fully enlightened over the 53 years of our > > > > teaching. Come back a week from some Thursday > > > > and we will provide you with a list of their names." > > > > > > > > Turq's definition > > > > "Enlightenment is something that people who (on the > > > > whole) have never experienced it like to talk about as > > > > if they knew exactly what it was. In general, the more > > > > they talk about it as if they know exactly what it is, > > > > the less likelihood there is that they have ever had > > > > even a fleeting experience of it. Those who *have* had > > > > a fleeting experience of what they consider enlighten- > > > > ment to be are basically saying that their subjective > > > > experience -- whatever it might have been really -- is > > > > synonymous with enlightenment because *they* had > > > > the experience, and they are so important that if *they* > > > > had that experience, it *must* be cool and valuable > > > > and special, because *they* are cool and valuable and > > > > special. People talk about enlightenment in the same > > > > way they talk about unicorns -- they claim to know > > > > *exactly* what the unicorn of enlightenment looks > > > > like, but can't show you any unicorns so that you can > > > > verify that what they are describing is true. You're > > > > just supposed to take their word for it that the unicorn > > > > they are describing is really enlightenment, because > > > > they said it, and they're so special. (On the whole, > > > > there is more agreement about what unicorns look > > > > like than about what enlightenment looks like.)" > > > > > > > > > >