anonymousff wrote: > no Rory, you missing the point. Good works both ways but you are > forgetting that this is war situation. > > Let me ask you this: > If somebody is shooting fire against you and your family you shoot > back? yes/no ? not always righ? > well maybe you specifically won't cause you don't want to do wrong > to others, right?
You are asking me a hypothetical "what-if" which is basically impossible to respond to. I am not judging those in that situation; and of course if I were them I would *be* them (which I am, of course, in the largest sense). I am just agreeing with Turq that violence begets violence; it locks people into the same rather hellish self-perpetuating frequency. (I will say this, though: If somebody were shooting fire against *me and my family* in *this* moment, I do *not* shoot back, as I do not own a weapon.) > > what if that killer is hiding behind his children while brainwashing > his kids and himself that it is good to die (jihad) ? > it means that he doesn't care much for his kids to begin with and he > keeps shooting and killing, this is after Israel > spent years trying to talk and change Islamic militants mind? What > do you do then Rory, keeps watching others > being murdered by him and don't shoot him down since he is using > other people? > Really, what options do you have, when evil hatred is your enemy's > strategic weapon and he is to wipe and you and > others fellow man from the earth? But of course the world got use to > Jews being murdered with silence and it looks > weird now that they try and do something about it. I was merely responding to your previous post which appeared to justify virtually indiscriminate killing of innocents because the killers were trying to kill someone who indiscriminately killed innocents. Any idiot (even me) can see that this attitude merely perpetuates the hatred, the "good guys" becoming indistinguishable from the "bad guys." > If you can find an answer to how one fight terrorism, I'm sure the > world would like to know. First, we find our "inner terrorists" and we heal them. Sounds naively simple, probably isn't: this could conceivably take care of the problem in its entirety, at least if we buy the whole quantum- mechanical-step-right-up-create-yer-own-universe model. Next, we don't blindly "fight" terrorism per se, at least not in an indiscriminate way, as it appears Bush is doing (and I say "appears" advisedly); he is simply creating a hundred terrorists where before there was *maybe* one. As was obvious to the intuition from day one, Iraq was innocent of 9/11, and Iraq had no WMDs, and the UN procedures were working fine. It's finally become pretty obvious to most who are not in severe denial that Bush preplanned the war on Iraq, and cooked the evidence to justify his premeditated attack. Best thing to do to stop making more terrorists? Admit we were wrong to get into Iraq, and get out now. I am not saying I have a full grasp of the situation, because I don't. Nonetheless, the average US citizen's understanding of what makes a terrorist a terrorist is (IMO) overly naive, paying no attention to the root-causes. Please note, MDixon, I am NOT saying we should sing Kumbaya and meditate at them. (Not that that might not help.) Go ahead and kill those who are already murderers, if that's where you are at, but let's take a good hard look at what's really creating terrorism, and begin to heal that. Our government doesn't want to touch this, as it goes right to our so-called "way of life" alright, but not to "democracy and freedom." As already mentioned, we are a nation of addicts, and this administration beautifully illustrates the damage that our power- hungry denial and black-and-white "us-them" addicted thinking can cause. We don't heal a disease by treating the symptoms alone. We go to the source, and heal it, and then we don't respond to indiscriminate hatred with indiscriminate hatred. And this takes us back to the most important point, at square one: Heal our own inner terrorists, or we will just be perpetuating the problem :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
